Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
26 Aug 2012 09:30 #35364
by Zenedar
Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL was created by Zenedar
Greetings! I was hoping you could take a look at this deck. Been playing different kind of bleed decks and wall decks mostly so I'd like to try out the rush/combat style a bit more.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 8 average: 4.16667
1x Ellen Fence, the T 8 CEL OBF PRO aus bishop !Gangrel:2
1x Dodd 5 CEL dom pre !Brujah:2
1x Rigby, Crusade Van 5 CEL PRE aus pot !Brujah:2
1x Skryta Zyleta 5 CEL obf pot pro !Gangrel:3
1x Victor Revell, Loy 5 CEL aus dem pre !Toreador:2
1x Jimmy Dunn 4 CEL POT for Pander:2
1x Scarlet Carson O'T 4 CEL pro !Gangrel:3
1x Victor Tolliver 4 CEL pot !Brujah:2
1x Jacob Bragg 3 cel pot !Brujah:2
1x Sarah Brando 3 CEL !Brujah:2
1x Carter 2 cel !Toreador:2
1x Jesus Alcala 2 cel !Gangrel:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [15]
2x Abbot
3x Ambush
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
7x Bum's Rush
2x Games of Instinct
Combat [43]
3x Blur
7x Concealed Weapon
2x Flash
3x Infernal Pursuit
12x Psyche!
7x Pursuit
1x Side Strike
2x Sideslip
6x Taste of Vitae
Equipment [10]
7x .44 Magnum
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
2x Laptop Computer
Master [18]
1x Archon Investigation
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
1x Fame
2x Frontal Assault
1x Haven Uncovered
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2x Tension in the Ranks
7x Vessel
2x Yawp Court
Reaction [2]
2x On the Qui Vive
Retainer [2]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
There, so the plan is to bleed forward and rush key vampires so I can stay alive to get into the three-way.
Ideally I'd have my 4 vampires up from the starting crypt (could be anything though since I got 1 of each vampire). Two or three with guns and bleed-bonuses.
There's all kinds of decks in my playgroup but most often I see different bleed decks (DOM). I have been noticing a small wave of combat sneaking into the meta though.
I played a version of this deck a few times before but it went quite bad. I think rush/combat decks are a lot harder to play than the bleed/wall decks.
Got any tips on how to play and tweaks on the deck? Thanks!
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 8 average: 4.16667
1x Ellen Fence, the T 8 CEL OBF PRO aus bishop !Gangrel:2
1x Dodd 5 CEL dom pre !Brujah:2
1x Rigby, Crusade Van 5 CEL PRE aus pot !Brujah:2
1x Skryta Zyleta 5 CEL obf pot pro !Gangrel:3
1x Victor Revell, Loy 5 CEL aus dem pre !Toreador:2
1x Jimmy Dunn 4 CEL POT for Pander:2
1x Scarlet Carson O'T 4 CEL pro !Gangrel:3
1x Victor Tolliver 4 CEL pot !Brujah:2
1x Jacob Bragg 3 cel pot !Brujah:2
1x Sarah Brando 3 CEL !Brujah:2
1x Carter 2 cel !Toreador:2
1x Jesus Alcala 2 cel !Gangrel:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [15]
2x Abbot
3x Ambush
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
7x Bum's Rush
2x Games of Instinct
Combat [43]
3x Blur
7x Concealed Weapon
2x Flash
3x Infernal Pursuit
12x Psyche!
7x Pursuit
1x Side Strike
2x Sideslip
6x Taste of Vitae
Equipment [10]
7x .44 Magnum
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
2x Laptop Computer
Master [18]
1x Archon Investigation
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
1x Fame
2x Frontal Assault
1x Haven Uncovered
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2x Tension in the Ranks
7x Vessel
2x Yawp Court
Reaction [2]
2x On the Qui Vive
Retainer [2]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
There, so the plan is to bleed forward and rush key vampires so I can stay alive to get into the three-way.
Ideally I'd have my 4 vampires up from the starting crypt (could be anything though since I got 1 of each vampire). Two or three with guns and bleed-bonuses.
There's all kinds of decks in my playgroup but most often I see different bleed decks (DOM). I have been noticing a small wave of combat sneaking into the meta though.
I played a version of this deck a few times before but it went quite bad. I think rush/combat decks are a lot harder to play than the bleed/wall decks.
Got any tips on how to play and tweaks on the deck? Thanks!
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26 Aug 2012 10:00 #35365
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
1-2 Dream of the sphinx would be a must, considering that both bloat and draw are very important for this deck to work.
43 combat card may be a bit much, since a minion with a gun can hold his own without combat card. Especially the 12 Psyche!, I would put 7 maximum.
I believe the two flash should really be additional pursuit.
Ellen Fence seem too big ; with your somehow poor defence, 8 pool for
is a lot.
Since you have few way to block action, you will risk being ousted early. I would focus either on brujah + toreador, to use
bleed to oust prey fast, or on toreador, to be able to stop your predator.
A third option would be to use black hand shenanigans, because Reunion Kamut is another very good way to live, and other black hand card can be useful, like Art of Memory or Corporal Reservoir.
If you don't try to cram more defence in the deck, then try your best to not look like a threat. This version is extremely slow to oust and can be ousted very quickly in the beginning ; to win with that you will need to be very very careful not to attract hate.
43 combat card may be a bit much, since a minion with a gun can hold his own without combat card. Especially the 12 Psyche!, I would put 7 maximum.
I believe the two flash should really be additional pursuit.
Ellen Fence seem too big ; with your somehow poor defence, 8 pool for

Since you have few way to block action, you will risk being ousted early. I would focus either on brujah + toreador, to use

A third option would be to use black hand shenanigans, because Reunion Kamut is another very good way to live, and other black hand card can be useful, like Art of Memory or Corporal Reservoir.
If you don't try to cram more defence in the deck, then try your best to not look like a threat. This version is extremely slow to oust and can be ousted very quickly in the beginning ; to win with that you will need to be very very careful not to attract hate.
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26 Aug 2012 10:15 #35366
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
I'd say CEL pre & CEL PRE would be the best option. Allows you to bleed after the kill and maybe get some pool via Public Trust/Social Charm/Legal Manipulation. And keep the crypt to less than or equal to 6 cap.





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26 Aug 2012 11:50 #35367
by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
12 masters could be considered a lot for a CEL-weenie. 18 kills the deck. Start by cutting 1x Tension, 1x Carver's, 1x Yawp Court, 1x Frontal Assault and 4x Vessel. I might add 2x Tribute to the Master in place of the Vessels, it's just way more efficient.
Add at least 3 more Infernal Pursuits, that card is quite simply insane with Concealed Magnums. If you don't need to cycle you can always use it for a press.
Change some or preferably most of the rushes to Rumbles. Cycling is good.
Other than that, looks like a solid deck. I wouldn't make any other changes before testing in practice.
Add at least 3 more Infernal Pursuits, that card is quite simply insane with Concealed Magnums. If you don't need to cycle you can always use it for a press.
Change some or preferably most of the rushes to Rumbles. Cycling is good.
Other than that, looks like a solid deck. I wouldn't make any other changes before testing in practice.
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26 Aug 2012 12:08 #35368
by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
You don't have any bleed action cards, so Camera Phones are better than Laptops.
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26 Aug 2012 13:35 #35369
by Suoli
Doesn't stack with the Codex.
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Sabbat got guns, weenie CEL
You don't have any bleed action cards, so Camera Phones are better than Laptops.
Doesn't stack with the Codex.
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