tenacious sisters revisited

How do you intend to oust?Swarm Bleed
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
back rushing aggressive predators, minion taps, ousting
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
5,6, or more sisters
What do you want your average turn to look like?Agent of power for superior Sanguinous then bleed, bleed, maybe get blocked and send opposing minion to torpor or not get blocked and walk of caine for a big bleed
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Some combat, lots of allies, votes, a grab bag really.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
need to get minions out faster and easier, need help with blood gain

Deck Name: Tenacious Sisters
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Description:


Crypt (Capacity min=4 max=4 avg=4; 20 cards)
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20x Hermana Hambrienta Mayor 4 for pot san Blood Brother:4

Library (90 cards)
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Master (13 cards)
7x Agent of Power
4x Minion Tap
2x Lilith's Blessing

Action (10 cards)
2x Ambush
2x Bum's Rush
2x Oppugnant Night
4x Redistribution

Action Modifier (10 cards)
3x Shell Game
7x Walk of Caine

Combat (57 cards)
5x Brother's Blood
9x Immortal Grapple
6x Octopod
5x Shoulder Drop
5x Three's a Crowd
9x Torn Signpost
9x Trap
9x Undying Tenacity

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Sep 6, 2012 23:50:45)

Revisiting this deck. Any thoughts? I removed Hungry coyotes for Lilith's Blessing. Thinking of dropping 5 Brother's Blood and 4 Redistribution. Maybe add Hive Minds? What else?

Minion taps look like -really- weird choice since all your guys are 4 caps, tribute to the master would likely be much better, you might also want to consider hungry coyote, and shoulder drops are just directly better as undead strengths since you have no other strike cards, or possibly even as target vitals if you want maximum damage. Couple fames probably wouldn't be bad either.

Fame would help a lot.

I have seen Robert Scythe use minion tap on low cap minions often and it works really well. It probably is not a fit for this deck but i want to play it a few times before i get rid of them. I have used tribute in this deck beofre and it seems to slow me down too much by depleting the blood I have. minion tap only takes from one minion, that was my thinking but it could be wrong.

Hungry coyote is good, I just wanted to try the Lilith's Blessing thing since it is all the rage these days.

Shoulder drop is silly, I know. Its just one of those cards I have a lot of and I want it to be useful. I probably should just use them as barbecue starters.

You can play both Hungry Coyote and Lillith.

I woul also add Unwholesome bound, Effective Management, or both. I am not too sure about the value of Agent of power.

Lastly, I would use Menor and not mayor, simply because I prefer having 1.5 time more vampire than playing inf' Undying Tenacity. Your mileage may vary.

My two cents:

1) I think your combat module is too big and it doesnt have a real focus. If you want to put the vampires down through trap & undying tenacy, why bother to include octopods & brother´s blood. The contrary is also true. Why do you use brother´s blood, the life of your vampires, when you can use taste of vitae and capitalize on others.

2) Your deck is two-thirds blood red cards and you only have 6 cards ( 1 of 15 cards to enter combat) to enter combat. Likely end having serious red hand jam. You should abuse of oppugnant. To have varied rush actions also like rumble and games of instinct.

3) If you want to bleed like hell and bother to put more minions in play why do you use hermanas mayores where you can use their younger siblings. Two for the price of one. And if you use lilith´s blessing with them you can get pretty much the same type of minion.

4) You bloat for zero, and also have zero defense capacity. Think some plan to make that happen. Vessel and hungry coyote or put extra minions on your crypt and unwholesome bond.

5) To apply the bleed tactic, recommend to be kind of responsible. Monocle of clarity to make a polite question before bleeding for eight could be fine or if you can get those pesky tangle antropos hand make also a good choice.

Dr.Mafrune wrote:

My two cents:

1) I think your combat module is too big and it doesnt have a real focus. If you want to put the vampires down through trap & undying tenacy, why bother to include octopods & brother´s blood. The contrary is also true. Why do you use brother´s blood, the life of your vampires, when you can use taste of vitae and capitalize on others..

Originally, i thought Brother's Blood prevented damage. This was to protect against agg damage. But it doesn't work that way, so I mentioned that I wanted to take it out.

2) Your deck is two-thirds blood red cards and you only have 6 cards ( 1 of 15 cards to enter combat) to enter combat. Likely end having serious red hand jam. You should abuse of oppugnant. To have varied rush actions also like rumble and games of instinct..

I think I used the two rushes for the maneuver if I don't have blood for three's a Crowd. Adding more rushes is a good idea. i will try it.

3) If you want to bleed like hell and bother to put more minions in play why do you use hermanas mayores where you can use their younger siblings. Two for the price of one. And if you use lilith´s blessing with them you can get pretty much the same type of minion..

I started this deck before Lilith's blessing I think. I have 6 Hermanas Menores so not enough for a full crypt. I ended up with a lot of Hermanas Mayores so I wanted to use them for something. It probably does work better with Menores but you do have to use slots for fortitude masters. I could mix the two, that might work.

4) You bloat for zero, and also have zero defense capacity. Think some plan to make that happen. Vessel and hungry coyote or put extra minions on your crypt and unwholesome bond..

Hungry Coyote has to go back in, Unwholesome Bond down to my crypt will have to be in combintaion with Agent of power Otherwise i don't have Superior Sang. I'm hesitant to put in vessels and such because I'm willing to let my vamps go to torpor. If I put permanents on them they are wasted. If I hunt or unwholesome at inferior they will be blocked because the opponent knows that vampire is more valuable then the others. I think that is another reason i went with minion taps. If I hunt or Lilith's I can tap that or any vamp over and over gaining 2-4 pool.
maybe the deck just won't work and I'm overthinking again.

5) To apply the bleed tactic, recommend to be kind of responsible. Monocle of clarity to make a polite question before bleeding for eight could be fine or if you can get those pesky tangle antropos hand make also a good choice.

Maybe I could use change of Target.