Cat Blast Fever
14 Sep 2012 11:53 #36798
by Azel
Replied by Azel on topic Re: Cat Blast Fever
Why do people lynch pin this to Black Cat, besides the obvious pool savings? It complicates things. Throw in Jack of Both Sides so your other minions can discount the guns. That should speed up things considerably.
Naturally Pier 13, Leather Jacket, Concealed, etc. stays in.
Now what you do about ousting... that's on you. A lone copy of Fame and two unique bleed retainers equals a whole lot of bleeds for one. How do you want to shape the crypt to improve this? Brujah w/ Legal/Public? Flurry of Action to bleed for one and stay up?
Suppressing Fire or Resist Earth's Grasp seem generally useful here, at the very least letting your rush land on your target.
I don't know what you want to do about defense. You look like the bleed sink here. Dodd & Anvil for Deflections? Major Boon and or Dummy Corp with Aversions and or Keep it Simple? Gotta make a decision. Four Tributes with midcaps is just not enough bloat for defense, IME.
Naturally Pier 13, Leather Jacket, Concealed, etc. stays in.
Now what you do about ousting... that's on you. A lone copy of Fame and two unique bleed retainers equals a whole lot of bleeds for one. How do you want to shape the crypt to improve this? Brujah w/ Legal/Public? Flurry of Action to bleed for one and stay up?
Suppressing Fire or Resist Earth's Grasp seem generally useful here, at the very least letting your rush land on your target.
I don't know what you want to do about defense. You look like the bleed sink here. Dodd & Anvil for Deflections? Major Boon and or Dummy Corp with Aversions and or Keep it Simple? Gotta make a decision. Four Tributes with midcaps is just not enough bloat for defense, IME.
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15 Sep 2012 12:18 #36871
by Dr.Mafrune


Replied by Dr.Mafrune on topic Re: Cat Blast Fever
This is clearly another deck where you would greatly benefit from abusing from recursive combo infernal pursuit + ashur tablets.
First part fetch near to all guns to black cat and deplete your deck.
Second part play nod and get all celerity and rushes back to the deck.
Third part is action time.
First part fetch near to all guns to black cat and deplete your deck.
Second part play nod and get all celerity and rushes back to the deck.
Third part is action time.



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15 Sep 2012 14:14 #36875
by Suoli
Fourth part: realize Black Cat is spelled Anson.
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This is clearly another deck where you would greatly benefit from abusing from recursive combo infernal pursuit + ashur tablets.
First part fetch near to all guns to black cat and deplete your deck.
Second part play nod and get all celerity and rushes back to the deck.
Third part is action time.
Fourth part: realize Black Cat is spelled Anson.

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16 Sep 2012 03:00 - 16 Sep 2012 04:06 #36916
by Dr.Mafrune


Replied by Dr.Mafrune on topic Re: Cat Blast Fever
Here is a first draft version of a deck with the above mentioned strategy:
Deck Name : Dark Passion Play
Author : Dr.Mafrune
Description : I took several ideas from the last version of Otso Saariluoma´s deck at Ropecon Gun Control, which, if I´m not wrong, is a version of a deck by Torstensson.
I think it needed 12 ashur and Waste Management, because the consuption pattern of infernal, combined with several concealed + beretta is even greater enhanced as in general ashurcelgun deck.
I don´t think master cards should be a great problem, thanks to infernal pursuit,two parthenon and the fact that the deck only acts and not reacts.
I would also liked to have it reduced to 80 cards, but I have really no clue what can I let appart. Indeed I wanted to include a second dragon breath and a wider view. This card can give you several pool thanks to recursion, which is great for a deck which only bloats with tablets and frontal assault.
At last, the name of the deck comes from an album by finnish music band Nightwish.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 5 average: 3.66667
4x Black Cat 5 CEL pot pre Brujah:1
3x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Dodd 5 CEL dom pre !Brujah:2
1x Rigby, Crusade Van 5 CEL PRE aus pot !Brujah:2
1x Jimmy Dunn 4 CEL POT for Pander:2
1x Victor Tolliver 4 CEL pot !Brujah:2
1x Sarah Brando 3 CEL !Brujah:2
Library [81 cards]
Action [12]
1x Arson
4x Big Game
7x Bum's Rush
Action Modifier/Combat [1]
1x Resist Earth's Grasp
Combat [31]
1x Blur
12x Concealed Weapon
1x Dragon's Breath Rounds
9x Infernal Pursuit
4x Psyche!
2x Pursuit
1x Sideslip
1x Taste of Vitae
Equipment [12]
12x Beretta 9mm
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound
Master [24]
2x Anarch Revolt
12x Ashur Tablets
1x Fame
1x Frontal Assault
2x Haven Uncovered
3x Nod
2x Parthenon, The
1x Waste Management Operation
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder.
Deck Name : Dark Passion Play
Author : Dr.Mafrune
Description : I took several ideas from the last version of Otso Saariluoma´s deck at Ropecon Gun Control, which, if I´m not wrong, is a version of a deck by Torstensson.
I think it needed 12 ashur and Waste Management, because the consuption pattern of infernal, combined with several concealed + beretta is even greater enhanced as in general ashurcelgun deck.
I don´t think master cards should be a great problem, thanks to infernal pursuit,two parthenon and the fact that the deck only acts and not reacts.
I would also liked to have it reduced to 80 cards, but I have really no clue what can I let appart. Indeed I wanted to include a second dragon breath and a wider view. This card can give you several pool thanks to recursion, which is great for a deck which only bloats with tablets and frontal assault.
At last, the name of the deck comes from an album by finnish music band Nightwish.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 5 average: 3.66667
4x Black Cat 5 CEL pot pre Brujah:1
3x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Dodd 5 CEL dom pre !Brujah:2
1x Rigby, Crusade Van 5 CEL PRE aus pot !Brujah:2
1x Jimmy Dunn 4 CEL POT for Pander:2
1x Victor Tolliver 4 CEL pot !Brujah:2
1x Sarah Brando 3 CEL !Brujah:2
Library [81 cards]
Action [12]
1x Arson
4x Big Game
7x Bum's Rush
Action Modifier/Combat [1]
1x Resist Earth's Grasp
Combat [31]
1x Blur
12x Concealed Weapon
1x Dragon's Breath Rounds
9x Infernal Pursuit
4x Psyche!
2x Pursuit
1x Sideslip
1x Taste of Vitae
Equipment [12]
12x Beretta 9mm
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound
Master [24]
2x Anarch Revolt
12x Ashur Tablets
1x Fame
1x Frontal Assault
2x Haven Uncovered
3x Nod
2x Parthenon, The
1x Waste Management Operation
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder.



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16 Sep 2012 17:35 #36972
by Lönkka
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Me and Ted Nugent approve!Cat Blast Fever
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17 Sep 2012 01:40 #36999
by js_vtes
Replied by js_vtes on topic Re: Cat Blast Fever
Thanks to everyone for the thought-provoking comments and suggestions!
I'm going to stick with the Berettas rather than the more "reliable" .44s. I would still need to pack the deck with them to draw them reliably, and every pool I spend on one is a pool I can't use to bring out another guy to pass along a bunch of FREE guns to. Four .44s mean no Victor or Jimmy. As Mr. Bajika put it in the linked discussion above:
So yes, this deck's more for fun than a tier-one tournament-blaster. But it did do some things surprisingly well:
- A minion with 3 Berettas can press twice and gets a free maneuver ALL THREE rounds. A .44 would just give you one.
- 3 Berettas + 2 Ghoul Retainers = 6R damage, before any additional strikes. Press, everybody passes their guns around and does it again. Ouch.
- Minion A has a Laptop and J.S. Simmons. That's a 3-point bleed. Heidelberg that stuff to Minion B and repeat. Then there's Minion C who's been sitting there with Tasha, too. Point is, it can do much more than just lots of bleeds for 1.
YES!! LOVE it! (Of course, I would expect nothing but good advice from a doctor.) The seed of the deck idea is that, after "the plan" has been pulled off, I'm left with a 40-or-so-card deck that I would move through pretty quickly, slapping permanents into play and drawing into the transient stuff just often enough. I was considering an Ashur module, but Infernal Pursuit is EXACTLY the missing element I need to make it swing.
And those bad boys stack, too, don't they? So if I play one each time I draw it, I could very well burn through my whole deck during that first combat. I just have to be smart enough (a shaky proposition at best) to leave myself with a decent hand when the dust settles. Say, Parthenon, Ashur, Ashur, Ashur, Nod...? Any other suggestions?
Hmm. I thought he might just be too big for the deck's premise, but he'd certainly come in handy for the whole "burn through cards fast" plan. Nothing like chiseling out 3 Ashur Tablets in one shot.
Thanks again, all! Any more thoughts, please share!
I'm going to stick with the Berettas rather than the more "reliable" .44s. I would still need to pack the deck with them to draw them reliably, and every pool I spend on one is a pool I can't use to bring out another guy to pass along a bunch of FREE guns to. Four .44s mean no Victor or Jimmy. As Mr. Bajika put it in the linked discussion above:
...it isn't a *good* deck, but it has a plan, and that plan is "Black Cat gets a million Berettas for free and spreads them around with Nod." If Black Cat is getting a million .44s, they aren't free, and you just oust yourself...
So yes, this deck's more for fun than a tier-one tournament-blaster. But it did do some things surprisingly well:
- A minion with 3 Berettas can press twice and gets a free maneuver ALL THREE rounds. A .44 would just give you one.
- 3 Berettas + 2 Ghoul Retainers = 6R damage, before any additional strikes. Press, everybody passes their guns around and does it again. Ouch.
- Minion A has a Laptop and J.S. Simmons. That's a 3-point bleed. Heidelberg that stuff to Minion B and repeat. Then there's Minion C who's been sitting there with Tasha, too. Point is, it can do much more than just lots of bleeds for 1.
This is clearly another deck where you would greatly benefit from abusing from recursive combo infernal pursuit + ashur tablets.
First part fetch near to all guns to black cat and deplete your deck.
Second part play nod and get all celerity and rushes back to the deck.
Third part is action time.
YES!! LOVE it! (Of course, I would expect nothing but good advice from a doctor.) The seed of the deck idea is that, after "the plan" has been pulled off, I'm left with a 40-or-so-card deck that I would move through pretty quickly, slapping permanents into play and drawing into the transient stuff just often enough. I was considering an Ashur module, but Infernal Pursuit is EXACTLY the missing element I need to make it swing.
And those bad boys stack, too, don't they? So if I play one each time I draw it, I could very well burn through my whole deck during that first combat. I just have to be smart enough (a shaky proposition at best) to leave myself with a decent hand when the dust settles. Say, Parthenon, Ashur, Ashur, Ashur, Nod...? Any other suggestions?
Fourth part: realize Black Cat is spelled Anson.
Hmm. I thought he might just be too big for the deck's premise, but he'd certainly come in handy for the whole "burn through cards fast" plan. Nothing like chiseling out 3 Ashur Tablets in one shot.
Thanks again, all! Any more thoughts, please share!
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