lutz deck
24 Apr 2011 14:50 - 24 Apr 2011 15:42 #3733
by tsuke
hello all. This is the lutz deck im currently using. Any suggestions to improve? I prefer his module over the other voters because he has better access to stealth with obfuscate and doesn't need to run disengages because of charismatic aura. Only problem is I dont have untap tech. Any suggestions?
4x Lutz von Hohenzollern(G4)
3x Alicia Barrows(G4)
2x Antoinette, She Who Watches(G3)
2x Stavros(G4)
1x Rafael de Corazon(G4)
7x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Elder Library
1x Giant's Blood
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Wider View
7x Enchant Kindred
11x Voter Captivation
9x Forgotten Labyrinth
9x Lost in Crowds
5x Bewitching Oration
11x Charismatic Aura
10x Kine Resources Contested
5x conservative agitation
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
4x Lutz von Hohenzollern(G4)
3x Alicia Barrows(G4)
2x Antoinette, She Who Watches(G3)
2x Stavros(G4)
1x Rafael de Corazon(G4)
7x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Elder Library
1x Giant's Blood
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Wider View
7x Enchant Kindred
11x Voter Captivation
9x Forgotten Labyrinth
9x Lost in Crowds
5x Bewitching Oration
11x Charismatic Aura
10x Kine Resources Contested
5x conservative agitation
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Last edit: 24 Apr 2011 15:42 by tsuke.
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24 Apr 2011 15:16 #3734
by Adonai
1) ARDB or Secret Library format.
2) Answer the questions in the guidelines for best results post.
3) Diversify your votes, you can't afford to stop playing because some one played Delaying Tactics on your Kine Resources Contested. See also: The Akunanse Lettters - Nkule Galadima
4) You have no way to act twice on your turn, remove the Enchant Kindred. Those are actions you cannot afford to be taking.
5) Have less fear of Immortal Grapple, it won't be played on your turn, with 6 stealth actions. Replace Elder Library and a few Charismatic Auras with copies of Secure Haven. Paying an extra pool for Villein while remaining safe from Rush is too good to pass up.
Perhaps something like this.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 6 max: 11 average: 9
4x Lutz von Hohenzoll 11 AUS DEM OBF PRE pot inner circle Malkavian:4
1x Rafael de Corazon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF PRE inner circle Toreador:4
3x Alicia Barrows 9 AUS DEM OBF POT PRE archbishop !Malkavian:4
2x Stavros 7 AUS OBF PRE dem priscus !Malkavian:4
2x Antoinette, She Who Watches 6 AUS PRE cel obf primogen Toreador:3
Library [80 cards]
Action Modifier [32]
5x Bewitching Oration
4x Faceless Night
7x Forgotten Labyrinth
7x Lost in Crowds
9x Voter Captivation
Combat [9]
6x Charismatic Aura
3x Majesty
Master [21]
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
3x Information Highway
1x Legendary Vampire
1x Monastery of Shadows
3x Secure Haven
7x Villein
1x Wider View
Political Action [18]
1x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
2x Banishment
4x Conservative Agitation
1x Domain Challenge
6x Kine Resources Contested
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: lutz deck
Any suggestions?
1) ARDB or Secret Library format.
2) Answer the questions in the guidelines for best results post.
3) Diversify your votes, you can't afford to stop playing because some one played Delaying Tactics on your Kine Resources Contested. See also: The Akunanse Lettters - Nkule Galadima
4) You have no way to act twice on your turn, remove the Enchant Kindred. Those are actions you cannot afford to be taking.
5) Have less fear of Immortal Grapple, it won't be played on your turn, with 6 stealth actions. Replace Elder Library and a few Charismatic Auras with copies of Secure Haven. Paying an extra pool for Villein while remaining safe from Rush is too good to pass up.
Perhaps something like this.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 6 max: 11 average: 9
4x Lutz von Hohenzoll 11 AUS DEM OBF PRE pot inner circle Malkavian:4
1x Rafael de Corazon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF PRE inner circle Toreador:4
3x Alicia Barrows 9 AUS DEM OBF POT PRE archbishop !Malkavian:4
2x Stavros 7 AUS OBF PRE dem priscus !Malkavian:4
2x Antoinette, She Who Watches 6 AUS PRE cel obf primogen Toreador:3
Library [80 cards]
Action Modifier [32]
5x Bewitching Oration
4x Faceless Night
7x Forgotten Labyrinth
7x Lost in Crowds
9x Voter Captivation
Combat [9]
6x Charismatic Aura
3x Majesty
Master [21]
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
3x Information Highway
1x Legendary Vampire
1x Monastery of Shadows
3x Secure Haven
7x Villein
1x Wider View
Political Action [18]
1x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
2x Banishment
4x Conservative Agitation
1x Domain Challenge
6x Kine Resources Contested
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
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24 Apr 2011 15:20 #3735
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: lutz deck
Well first of you should diversify your votes, as it is, one DT stops you dead for the turn. Try something like 8x KRC, 4x Conservative Agitation, 1x Anarchist Uprising, 1x Ancilla Empowerment, 1x Neonate Breach instead of just 15 KRC.
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24 Apr 2011 15:25 #3736
by Silmegil
Replied by Silmegil on topic Re: lutz deck
I must srongly agree especially with neonate breach. Potential of this card is really great. You can inflict 4 direct pool damage on 4 other metusaleahs. I know, it is not clever in most cases, but I have done it and it payed off.
I have somewhat similar deck to this and will try to post it here later. If only I had so much charismatic auras such as yourself B)
I have somewhat similar deck to this and will try to post it here later. If only I had so much charismatic auras such as yourself B)
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24 Apr 2011 15:41 #3738
by tsuke
I have 10000000 auras in JOL
editing first post to reflect vote diversity changes. Im still not convinced about not being afraid of IG. Ive been rush/torpored to many times X.X
Replied by tsuke on topic Re: lutz deck
I must srongly agree especially with neonate breach. Potential of this card is really great. You can inflict 4 direct pool damage on 4 other metusaleahs. I know, it is not clever in most cases, but I have done it and it payed off.
I have somewhat similar deck to this and will try to post it here later. If only I had so much charismatic auras such as yourself B)
I have 10000000 auras in JOL

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24 Apr 2011 16:18 - 24 Apr 2011 16:20 #3740
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: lutz deck
80 cards is probably too fat for this deck. You are only taking actions that deal direct pool damage, you have Lutz'special and you shouldn't need more than 1 stealth card per action. You will probably never ned more than 70 cards to sweep a table.
Last edit: 24 Apr 2011 16:20 by Boris The Blade.
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