Girls will find Sadness
04 Nov 2012 12:32 - 04 Nov 2012 12:35 #40362
by Damnans
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Girls will find Sadness was created by Damnans
Deck Name : Girls will find Sadness
Author : Kevin Mergen & Damnans
Description : This deck has been designed with the purpose of being capable of destroying Ashur Tablet decks while still being able to be competitive enough to get game wins. It is based on Phagian's special ability, which allows other vampires you control to play Necromancy
cards at basic level by paying an additional blood. Thus you do not have to includde Necromancy
master discipline cards in your deck in order to enable your Dementation Malkavians
/
to play Trochomancy to deny any Methuselah of your choice access to card recursion.
How do you intend to oust?
By bleeding my preys to death.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
By ousting as many preys as possible while gaining some pool during the process (either from Kindred Spirits or from ousts). In addition, there are several bleed bounce cards.
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Phagian + 3 vampires with Dementation
.
What do you want your average turn to look like?
Each vampire with Dementation
bleeding my prey for 3 or 4 (with Trochomancy if necessary).
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
It is very varied. My opponents play in very different modes
(such as aggressive, very defensive, spiteful, etc.)
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The main problem comes from investing 8 pool on Phagian, who lacks Obfuscate
and Dementation
to be able to take bleed actions.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.33333
Library [90 cards]
Action [19]
18x Kindred Spirits
1x Whispers from the Dead
Action Modifier [29]
3x Cloak the Gathering
3x Domain of Evernight
6x Eyes of Chaos
3x Faceless Night
3x Lost in Crowds
3x Spying Mission
8x Trochomancy
Action Modifier/Combat [6]
3x Deny
3x Swallowed by the Night
Action Modifier/Reaction [5]
3x Gift of Sleep
2x Touch of Clarity
Combat [4]
4x Spiritual Intervention
Event [1]
1x Uncoiling, The
Master [17]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Barrens, The
1x Direct Intervention
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Misdirection
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Secure Haven
6x Sudden Reversal
2x Wider View
Reaction [9]
3x On the Qui Vive
6x Telepathic Misdirection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun Nov 04 14:10:44 2012]
Author : Kevin Mergen & Damnans
Description : This deck has been designed with the purpose of being capable of destroying Ashur Tablet decks while still being able to be competitive enough to get game wins. It is based on Phagian's special ability, which allows other vampires you control to play Necromancy




How do you intend to oust?
By bleeding my preys to death.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
By ousting as many preys as possible while gaining some pool during the process (either from Kindred Spirits or from ousts). In addition, there are several bleed bounce cards.
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Phagian + 3 vampires with Dementation

What do you want your average turn to look like?
Each vampire with Dementation

What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
It is very varied. My opponents play in very different modes

What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The main problem comes from investing 8 pool on Phagian, who lacks Obfuscate


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.33333
5x | Phagian | (8) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Harbinger of Skulls | (g4) | |
1x | Morel | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian | (g4) | |
1x | Ruth McGinley | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | primogen | Malkavian | (g3) |
1x | Tony | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian | (g3) | |
1x | Apache Jones | (5) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian antitribu | (g4) | |
1x | Persia, The Beautiful Statue | (5) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian | (g3) | |
1x | Uncle George | (5) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian antitribu | (g3) | |
1x | Midget | (3) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Malkavian antitribu | (g3) |
Library [90 cards]
Action [19]
18x Kindred Spirits
1x Whispers from the Dead
Action Modifier [29]
3x Cloak the Gathering
3x Domain of Evernight
6x Eyes of Chaos
3x Faceless Night
3x Lost in Crowds
3x Spying Mission
8x Trochomancy
Action Modifier/Combat [6]
3x Deny
3x Swallowed by the Night
Action Modifier/Reaction [5]
3x Gift of Sleep
2x Touch of Clarity
Combat [4]
4x Spiritual Intervention
Event [1]
1x Uncoiling, The
Master [17]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Barrens, The
1x Direct Intervention
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Misdirection
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Secure Haven
6x Sudden Reversal
2x Wider View
Reaction [9]
3x On the Qui Vive
6x Telepathic Misdirection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun Nov 04 14:10:44 2012]











Last edit: 04 Nov 2012 12:35 by Damnans.
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04 Nov 2012 13:01 - 04 Nov 2012 13:03 #40366
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Girls will find Sadness
Why play with 
rather than 
or 
, or even 

? Right now Phagian has very little to do and no stealth on his own. You could keep the same core idea with a deck where everyone can play your cards.









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04 Nov 2012 13:15 - 04 Nov 2012 13:21 #40368
by Damnans
Because with Dominate
I cannot bleed any Methuselah, as I can with Kindred Spirits. If the Ashur Tablet deck were cross-table or my predator, I would not be able to it them with Trochomancy.
I could add a few master discipline cards for Phagian perhaps, or I could add several Veil the Legions to give him stealth.
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Replied by Damnans on topic Re: Girls will find Sadness
Why play with
rather than
or
, or even
?
Because with Dominate

Right now Phagian has very little to do and no stealth on his own. You could keep the same core idea with a deck where everyone can play your cards.
I could add a few master discipline cards for Phagian perhaps, or I could add several Veil the Legions to give him stealth.











Last edit: 04 Nov 2012 13:21 by Damnans.
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04 Nov 2012 13:38 - 04 Nov 2012 13:43 #40369
by Boris The Blade
2) Should you care? With a
bleeder, an Ashur deck is not such a bad predator: you have a decent chance of scoring your 3 VPs before he gets really nasty. If the Ashur deck is crosstable, you are more likely to get bounced to him early on and if you are fast enough he will still be within reach when he becomes your prey.
As it is now, your vampires are not so small and Phagian cannot KS. If you start wasting actions on crosstable bleeds, you might screw up the Ashur deck, but can you still score your own VPs?
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Girls will find Sadness
1) You can still hit them on bounced bleeds.Because with Dominate
I cannot bleed any Methuselah, as I can with Kindred Spirits. If the Ashur Tablet deck were cross-table or my predator, I would not be able to it them with Trochomancy.
2) Should you care? With a

As it is now, your vampires are not so small and Phagian cannot KS. If you start wasting actions on crosstable bleeds, you might screw up the Ashur deck, but can you still score your own VPs?
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04 Nov 2012 13:41 #40370
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Girls will find Sadness
Or, you could just use his THA and Magic up Winchester Mansion.
Then play the G4/5 tha/dem/aus crypt with Alister Crowly and Reiner Stoschka. As a bonus, with Reiner in play your discipline cards are trifles so you can get THA/DEM/AUS on everyone and splash some obfuscate for Cloak and Veil.
Then you might actually have a deck.
Then play the G4/5 tha/dem/aus crypt with Alister Crowly and Reiner Stoschka. As a bonus, with Reiner in play your discipline cards are trifles so you can get THA/DEM/AUS on everyone and splash some obfuscate for Cloak and Veil.
Then you might actually have a deck.
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04 Nov 2012 18:32 #40384
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Girls will find Sadness
Sticking with the original idea, I would add Vast Wealth, Winchester Mansion and Changling Skin Mask. Drop combat in favor of more bleed bleed bounce. It seems like your best bet is to have your star stay untapped and bounce while the supporting crew does the bleeding, except when you can either oust or otherwise get away with low defense.
Agent of Power could help supply a little extra dementation or obfuscate as needed.
-2 dreams +2 blood doll could be good for a little extra pool gain/blood pushing (or -1/+1).
Agent of Power could help supply a little extra dementation or obfuscate as needed.
-2 dreams +2 blood doll could be good for a little extra pool gain/blood pushing (or -1/+1).
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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