file Deck: The Justicars' Retribution

07 May 2011 08:04 #4225 by Juggernaut1981
This is mostly for amusement. I think it could be moderately successful but I doubt it is a Tier 1 concept (mostly because of the use of inferior disciplines and less than optimal combat). The idea is to drag out a Justicar or two, maybe a prince and then bash or vote your way through your prey. Defend yourself with 2nd Trads (and maybe the odd Lost in Translation when things go a bit more pear-shaped). Positive is that Forgotten Labyrinth can be used on nearly all of your "go forward" actions since they will probably be votes or rushes.


Deck Name : The Justicars' Retribution
Author : Juggernaut1981
Description :
Justicars with Obf-For-Pot (and some Princes)


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 6 max: 10 average: 8.66667

2x Cock Robin 10 ANI OBF POT aus for justicar Nosferatu:3
2x Jaroslav Pascek 10 CEL POT PRE for obf justicar Brujah:3
2x Lucinde, Alastor 10 DOM FOR PRE obf pot tha justicar Ventrue:3
2x Suhailah 9 FOR OBF pot ser prince Ventrue:2
2x Nikolaus Vermeulen 7 POT ani for obf prince Nosferatu:2
1x Alonzo Guillen 6 OBF ani for pot Nosferatu:3
1x Gerard Rafin 6 OBF POT ani for Nosferatu:3


Library [90 cards]

Action [16]
4x Fifth Tradition: Hospitality
6x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
3x Heroic Might
3x Preternatural Strength

Action Modifier [18]
6x Cloak the Gathering
6x Forgotten Labyrinth
6x Freak Drive

Combat [18]
6x Immortal Grapple
4x Skin of Rock
4x Skin of Steel
4x Taste of Vitae

Master [10]
2x Fame
1x From a Sinking Ship
2x Obfuscate
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
4x Villein

Political Action [16]
1x Ancient Influence
4x Archon
1x Justicar Retribution
4x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power

Reaction [12]
4x Lost in Translation
8x Second Tradition: Domain

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07 May 2011 08:26 #4226 by Pendargon
Put alastors and helicopters instead of archons and some of the lost in translations.
Alastor also provides a rush, and helicopter for 1 pool (via alastor) provides a lot of untap making actions more efficient (rush-untap-politic-freak-bleed --- Profit!)
B)

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07 May 2011 08:55 #4227 by Juggernaut1981
I actually REALLY dislike Alastor. Sure you get cheap gear, but you don't get free eating or the burn blood for attempts to block. It includes attempting to block votes, bleeds, the whole box and dice. You want to block, pay 1 blood to try. It's not as good as Aching Beauty, but it is better than Camarilla Exemplary.

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07 May 2011 09:22 #4228 by Pendargon
Sure, pay blood to block is awesome, and quickly add up, and becomes a burden to the blocker. But, realistically, how many vampires want to block a heroic-mighted Cock Robin? B)
Also, in my playgroup, Archon is rarely passed unless you have complete votelock, especially for the fear of free diablerie. If they see you doing it once, your archon is never gonna pass around these parts, unless you can push it with your votes alone, and in that case, you can survive the bloodhunt itself.
On the other hand, a non-gun fetching early alastor can be allowed, and with helicopter, in my experience, plays well with fame and tension (i rush you, you go to torpor, burn 3 from fame and one from tension, i untap, i take you out, another guy rushes you... ad nauseam) :-D
Just my 2 cents, if you dislike alastor, go with what you like, fun is the name of the game ;-)
I would really like to hear how this deck works, especially since some of my favorite vampires.
p.s. Also, i see no taste of vitae in the deck?

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07 May 2011 09:45 #4229 by Juggernaut1981
*points at the 4x Taste of Vitae as the last card in the Combat section*

See my playgroup is much more likely to block Alastor and vote down Archon. Archon is a table threat, Alastor tends to be a Predator/Prey problem. Plus all I need is vote advantage when I call the Archon (which you can get with a moderately early Prince).

Vampires will try block a Heroic Might Cock Robin is he's doing stuff like rushing star vampires or smashing big bleeders. Archon just provides another disincentive to block and the chance for a gutsy predator or prey to miscalculate the blood required to survive.

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07 May 2011 10:03 #4230 by Pendargon
*puts on glasses* I must be blind, missed those completely! :-D

Lemme know how it works!

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