file Ariadne and Vasiliy

05 Apr 2013 00:58 #46577 by Molloy
Ariadne and Vasiliy was created by Molloy
Deck Name: Ariadne and Vasiliy
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Crypt (Capacity min=3 max=8 avg=6.75; 12 cards)
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5x Ariadne 8 chi ANI FOR PRO Gangrel:5
1x Lillian 3 ani pro Gangrel:5
1x Marion French 3 ani chi Ravnos:4
1x Neel Ramanathan 3 ani for Ravnos:4
4x Vasiliy Vasilevich 8 for pro ANI CHI Ravnos:5

Library (90 cards)
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Master (14 cards)
1x Backways
1x Chimerstry
1x Fortitude
1x Fortune Teller Shop
1x Giant's Blood
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
6x Minion Tap
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Protean

Action (17 cards)
6x Abactor
4x Deep Song
5x Jack of Both Sides
2x Tier of Souls

Equipment (3 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Ivory Bow
1x Treasured Samadji

Ally (2 cards)
2x Underbridge Stray

Retainer (7 cards)
1x Dog Pack
6x Raptor

Action Modifier (15 cards)
4x Earth Control
4x Fata Morgana
5x Freak Drive
2x Will-o'-the-Wisp

Reaction (10 cards)
2x Cats' Guidance
2x On the Qui Vive
5x Sense the Savage Way
1x Veiled Sight

Combat (22 cards)
2x Amaranth
1x Bone Spur
3x Carrion Crows
2x Claws of the Dead
6x Flesh of Marble
2x Scorpion Sting
2x Target Vitals
4x Unflinching Persistence

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Apr 5, 2013 05:56:39)

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05 Apr 2013 02:16 #46578 by brandonsantacruz
Please explain this deck some. If you can answer the following questions you can get some better advice, if that is what you are interested in.


How do you intend to oust?
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
What do you want your average turn to look like?
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

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05 Apr 2013 03:44 #46579 by Molloy
Replied by Molloy on topic Re: Ariadne and Vasiliy
To me it seems like a very transparent deck, biuilt around Ariadne and Vasiliy's shared disciplines, powered by their very goo specials.

How do you intend to oust?
bleed

How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
bloat with Ariadne/Abactor/Minion Tap; block with Raptors

What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Ariadne and Vasiliy and maybe, eventually, one more

What do you want your average turn to look like?
Minion Tap Ariadne. Ariadne Abactor. Freak Drive. Vasiliy bleed. automatic untap. Ariadne bleed; and/or, Ariadne and/or Vasiliy tool up with Jack of Both Sides; or, occasionally, Ariadne Deep Song rush a prime target, destroy it with Claws/Amaranth.

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05 Apr 2013 06:27 - 05 Apr 2013 06:43 #46582 by Kiddo
Replied by Kiddo on topic Re: Ariadne and Vasiliy
I'll stick to one aspect of your deck. Regarding Raptors and Jack of both sides - I would simplify: first of all, Raptors actually rarely work. You need to have them in sufficient quantities on a given vampire (like at least 4, but probably more) to actually hurt your opponent rather than helping him. You have neither enough Raptors to do that in this deck, nor have you any way to recruit them faster or with more 'precision' (via cards like Muricia's Call). I'd just swap them with Raven Spies. I also think you have way too few untaps to properly use your permacept package, even when taking Freak Drives into account..

Also, Jack of Both Sides gives you additional stealth and reduces a cost (not significantly, might i add) of exactly 10 cards in your deck, and you have access to unconditional stealth via your disciplines. I'd for sure drop Jacks in favour of something more suitable. Like means to get into combat with someone, which seems to be your deck's goal, but is, I'd say, quite pathetic in that regard.
Last edit: 05 Apr 2013 06:43 by Kiddo.

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05 Apr 2013 14:00 #46603 by ICL
Replied by ICL on topic Re: Ariadne and Vasiliy
Besides dropping JoBS and replacing Raptors with Raven Spies and the Free Raven Spy (Mr. Winthrop), I'd add Lilith's Blessing and Wider View. I'd switch Veiled Sight for something more generally useful.

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05 Apr 2013 16:05 #46611 by Molloy
Replied by Molloy on topic Re: Ariadne and Vasiliy
Deck Name: Ariadne and Vasiliy (tighter)
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Description:


Crypt (Capacity min=3 max=8 avg=6.75; 12 cards)
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5x Ariadne 8 chi ANI FOR PRO Gangrel:5
1x Lillian 3 ani pro Gangrel:5
1x Marion French 3 ani chi Ravnos:4
1x Neel Ramanathan 3 ani for Ravnos:4
4x Vasiliy Vasilevich 8 for pro ANI CHI Ravnos:5

Library (90 cards)
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Master (13 cards)
1x Backways
1x Bleeding the Vine
1x Fortune Teller Shop
1x Giant's Blood
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
7x Minion Tap
1x Monastery of Shadows

Action (17 cards)
7x Abactor
1x Army of Rats
7x Deep Song
2x Tier of Souls

Retainer (7 cards)
1x Dog Pack
6x Raven Spy

Action Modifier (19 cards)
4x Earth Control
5x Fata Morgana
7x Freak Drive
3x Will-o'-the-Wisp

Reaction (12 cards)
3x Cats' Guidance
3x On the Qui Vive
6x Sense the Savage Way

Combat (22 cards)
2x Amaranth
2x Canine Horde
3x Carrion Crows
2x Claws of the Dead
6x Flesh of Marble
2x Scorpion Sting
4x Unflinching Persistence
1x Wolf Claws

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Apr 5, 2013 21:04:51)

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