The Camarilla Does it Better
05 Jun 2013 21:09 #49543
by Franz
The Camarilla Does it Better was created by Franz
Deck Name: The Camarilla does it Better
Created By: Franz
Description: This deck led me to the final table in the Brazilian National Championship we had last weekend. The idea came from the many !Ventrue grinder decks that made to the TWD in the past and the fact that I don't own 8 eyes of argus. So I decided to assemble basically the same deck but exchange EoA for 2nd trads. All in all, with a crypt that can support this choice (9 out of 12 vampires can play 2nd trad), I felt untapping with 2 intercept is stronger than getting 2 intercept on a D action OR pseudo untapping. On the downside I loose the cool specials that Owain, Blackhorse and Neighbour John bring to the table. On the upside, I got a stronger untap and vote presence strong enough to have dedicated political decks strike deals with me if they want their votes to pass.
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 20, Max: 30, Avg: 6,16)
2 Emily Carson for pre DOM 5 Ventrue
2 Graham Gottesman obf pre tha DOM FOR7 Ventrue
1 Joáo Bilé pre DOM FOR 5 Ventrue
2 Lodin (Olaf Holte) aus pro DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
2 Mustafa cel dom FOR PRE6 Ventrue
2 Victor Donaldson for pre DOM 6 Ventrue
1 Victor Pelletier cel dom for PRE5 Ventrue
Library: (90 cards)
Master (15 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Coven, The
1 Direct Intervention
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Elysium: The Arboretum
1 Hostile Takeover
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Uptown Hunting Ground
4 Vessel
1 Wider View
Action (13 cards)
2 Dominate Kine
7 Govern the Unaligned
4 Scouting Mission
Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Bonding
4 Conditioning
2 Daring the Dawn
1 Foreshadowing Destruction
5 Freak Drive
2 Kiss of Ra, The
5 Seduction
Political Action (2 cards)
1 Parity Shift
1 Reinforcements
Reaction (20 cards)
6 Deflection
2 On the Qui Vive
4 Redirection
8 Second Tradition: Domain, The
Combat (19 cards)
2 Hidden Strength
4 Indomitability
5 Rolling with the Punches
4 Soak
4 Weighted Walking Stick
This deck was last saved at 00:03:18 on 01/06/2013
Created By: Franz
Description: This deck led me to the final table in the Brazilian National Championship we had last weekend. The idea came from the many !Ventrue grinder decks that made to the TWD in the past and the fact that I don't own 8 eyes of argus. So I decided to assemble basically the same deck but exchange EoA for 2nd trads. All in all, with a crypt that can support this choice (9 out of 12 vampires can play 2nd trad), I felt untapping with 2 intercept is stronger than getting 2 intercept on a D action OR pseudo untapping. On the downside I loose the cool specials that Owain, Blackhorse and Neighbour John bring to the table. On the upside, I got a stronger untap and vote presence strong enough to have dedicated political decks strike deals with me if they want their votes to pass.
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 20, Max: 30, Avg: 6,16)
2 Emily Carson for pre DOM 5 Ventrue
2 Graham Gottesman obf pre tha DOM FOR7 Ventrue
1 Joáo Bilé pre DOM FOR 5 Ventrue
2 Lodin (Olaf Holte) aus pro DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
2 Mustafa cel dom FOR PRE6 Ventrue
2 Victor Donaldson for pre DOM 6 Ventrue
1 Victor Pelletier cel dom for PRE5 Ventrue
Library: (90 cards)
Master (15 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Coven, The
1 Direct Intervention
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Elysium: The Arboretum
1 Hostile Takeover
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Uptown Hunting Ground
4 Vessel
1 Wider View
Action (13 cards)
2 Dominate Kine
7 Govern the Unaligned
4 Scouting Mission
Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Bonding
4 Conditioning
2 Daring the Dawn
1 Foreshadowing Destruction
5 Freak Drive
2 Kiss of Ra, The
5 Seduction
Political Action (2 cards)
1 Parity Shift
1 Reinforcements
Reaction (20 cards)
6 Deflection
2 On the Qui Vive
4 Redirection
8 Second Tradition: Domain, The
Combat (19 cards)
2 Hidden Strength
4 Indomitability
5 Rolling with the Punches
4 Soak
4 Weighted Walking Stick
This deck was last saved at 00:03:18 on 01/06/2013
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05 Jun 2013 23:29 #49552
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: The Camarilla Does it Better
I would replace elysium and hostile takeover with Island of Yiaros and Ephor, also taking in your blocky and fighty, coven would likely be better as the rack, and uptown hunting ground as papillon with all those titles. Some Entrancements would probably be good also, not fan of kiss of ra, it has bit too large opportunity cost (not to mention blood cost).
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06 Jun 2013 03:17 #49554
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: The Camarilla Does it Better
Dude, i used to run like 4 varients of this deck.
I agree with klaital nominally.
Add: ephor, papillion, 44 mag, rack, and maybe perfect paragon.
Id drop soak in facor of something that stops agg. Drop: elysium, coven, 1 dominate kine, reinforcements, all redirection.
Add some deflection, target vitals, maybe 2 tastes. Maybr make 1 kiss of ra into something else. Bonding is your friend. With a lineup of princes, id up the parity shifts to like 3.
Crypt: add lodin. Hes your owain. Trust me, if you are blocking, getting beat on, hes awesome. Ive ran a stairstep from maryanne to castellein to lodin to graham to donaldson to pelletier. I never disliked lodin flipping. Muktar bey is also shockingly handy in this setup if you add some enchants and drop 2-3 scoutings.
I agree with klaital nominally.
Add: ephor, papillion, 44 mag, rack, and maybe perfect paragon.
Id drop soak in facor of something that stops agg. Drop: elysium, coven, 1 dominate kine, reinforcements, all redirection.
Add some deflection, target vitals, maybe 2 tastes. Maybr make 1 kiss of ra into something else. Bonding is your friend. With a lineup of princes, id up the parity shifts to like 3.
Crypt: add lodin. Hes your owain. Trust me, if you are blocking, getting beat on, hes awesome. Ive ran a stairstep from maryanne to castellein to lodin to graham to donaldson to pelletier. I never disliked lodin flipping. Muktar bey is also shockingly handy in this setup if you add some enchants and drop 2-3 scoutings.
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06 Jun 2013 03:18 #49555
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: The Camarilla Does it Better
Oh, and good luck, id like to see this in the twda. Unlesz it ousts me at finals, of course.
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