file Mata Hari & her friends

26 Aug 2013 17:05 #53609 by Khalid1988
Okay so here is my new deck idea built around Mata Hari. All kinds of tips and hints and tweak ideas are very welcome, because at the moment the deck is quite costly in blood and pool. So any tips especially on the blood management part are welcome.

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.16667
4x Mata Hari (7):CHI: :OBF: :aus: :for: :qui:2 votesRavnos(group 4)
2x Alexis Sorokin (8):CEL: :CHI: :OBF: :PRO: :for:Ravnos(group 4)
1x Chavi Oraczko (7):ANI: :CHI: :FOR: :nec:Ravnos(group 5)
1x Tatiana Stepanova, Alastor (7):CHI: :PRE: :ani: :for: :obf:Ravnos(group 4)
1x Papa Legba (5):ani: :chi: :for: :obt:Ravnos(group 5)
1x Devyn (4):ani: :chi: :pre:Ravnos(group 4)
1x Gharston Roland (4):CHI: :ani: :pot:Ravnos(group 4)
1x Gwen Brand (3):aus: :chi:Ravnos(group 5)

Library [90 cards]

Action [28]
2x Blithe Acceptance
6x Edged Illusion
6x Fatuus Mastery
1x Nightmare Curse
4x Restoration
1x Shared Nightmare
2x Sibyl's Tongue
6x Tumnimos

Action Modifier [34]
5x Cloak the Gathering
15x Fata Morgana
3x Lost in Crowds
4x Veil the Legions
7x Zapaderin

Action Modifier/Combat [1]
1x Swallowed by the Night

Ally [3]
3x Muddled Vampire Hunter

Equipment [3]
1x Laptop Computer
1x Shilmulo Tarot
1x Treasured Samadji

Master [15]
1x Black Throne, The
1x Blood Doll
1x City Gangrel Connections
1x Demonstration
1x Fortune Teller Shop
1x Park Hunting Ground
2x Path of Paradox, The
1x Ravnos Carnival
2x Sudden Reversal
2x Svadharma
1x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Waste Management Operation

Reaction [6]
3x Confusion of the Eye
3x Forced Vigilance


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Mon Aug 26 21:28:13 2013]

Then the idea behind the deck:

1) How do you intend to oust?

My main oust mechanism is to use Chimerstry bleed modifiers, mainly Fata Morganas to bleed with the bigger vampires. I also included some Tumnimoses to provide some extra bleeders to more easily get the big bleeds through. I also added a few bleed equipments for extra boost.

2) How do you intend to keep from being ousted?

With this deck to prevent from being ousted my idea is to go for quick oust of the initial prey, and also to use cards like Muddled Vampire Hunter to soften my predator.

3) What do you want your ready region to look like?

It is vital to get Mata Hari out so I included 4 copies of her. Then I would perhaps like to get at Alexis Sorokin or Tatiana Stepanova as well so I would have two vampires with obfuscate to play cards like Cloak the Gathering and Veil the Legions. Maybe another smaller Ravnos to back them up and then bring out all the Tumnimos I can.

4) What do you want your avarage turn to look like?

The avarage turn would involve Mata Hari either bleeding, getting a blood saver such as Fatuus Mastery or Restoration or as third option spawning a Tumnimos. I am not sure how I could get more untap possibilities for her so she could also use action modifiers to help the Tumnimoses to bleed. Mata Hari truly is the star of this deck, the rest of the minions more or less just bleed.

5) What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?

I am sorry but I am not sure what to answer to this question. People use so many different decks that it is difficult to guess before the game begins what you have as your prey or predator.

6) What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

The deck hasn't yet been played but I wanted to post it here because I am worried about the possibility of simply getting my hand jammed with actions costing blood and my minions having none on them.

I guess that's it. All feedback is appreciated because I am not sure if the deck is really in balance. I tried to use the card amount suggestions of ARDB as a reference but it still feels a bit shaky. Thank you already in advance.

Prince of Tikkurila, known as Teemu P in Lackey CCG
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26 Aug 2013 19:54 #53622 by Ohlmann
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Don't you fear choking on your 1/3 deck worth of action ? It seem too much, especially with the amount of blood they cost.

Black throne and City Gangrel connection seem pretty weak considering you don't have political action or much vote. I would replace them by good old delaying tactics.

A last thing : the only hope you have if someone rush your mata hari who conveniently is red list is 1 swallowed by the night. You really, really need to find 4-5 card to protect against combat if you don't want to see a torpored Mata.
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26 Aug 2013 19:54 - 26 Aug 2013 19:55 #53623 by blackday
Im not exactly sure how fast you could maintain the bleeds, and id go with what Ohlmann said.
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26 Aug 2013 20:36 - 26 Aug 2013 20:42 #53624 by Khalid1988

Don't you fear choking on your 1/3 deck worth of action ? It seem too much, especially with the amount of blood they cost.

Black throne and City Gangrel connection seem pretty weak considering you don't have political action or much vote. I would replace them by good old delaying tactics.

A last thing : the only hope you have if someone rush your mata hari who conveniently is red list is 1 swallowed by the night. You really, really need to find 4-5 card to protect against combat if you don't want to see a torpored Mata.


I think you are correct that 1/3 of deck as actions might be too much. I was hoping that if I would get enough minions (vampires and small Tumnimos) to play they could cope with the amount of actions but perhaps with all the allies and equipments that is too large amount. Do you have suggestions what I could take out if I still want to keep my deck's main idea that it mostly bleeds and tries to get new small minion to play while making use of Mata Hari's special ability?

Replacing Black Throne and City Gangrel Connections with Delaying Tactics also sounds ok. Those were pretty much added because with Mata Hari I could play them.

Thank you for pointing out the horrible lack of combat defence. I didn't really think about that, I guess I could take some actions away and put some damage prevent there as replacements.

Prince of Tikkurila, known as Teemu P in Lackey CCG
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27 Aug 2013 05:20 #53632 by Timo
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Just because you can doesn't mean you have to play waste management.

As it is, I don't see this deck going threw 90 cards and the only shuffling cards are 2 sybils tongue..

Drop waste management.
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28 Aug 2013 11:31 #53680 by ReverendRevolver
This feels really all over the place, but its got potential. Why 3 muddleds? Hes unique. Id switch to one of him and two chosen from these: Nephren-ka, Ponticulous, High-Top, Carlton, or Ossian.

After reading the first 3 vamps, i almost expected rebirth.......

Its good vamps, but im not sure on overall goal being achieved. Mata with tsunda and eldest are kholo vote and swarm is good with won. Also, mata and midcap ravnos(and even chavi) pumping out tuminos and other bugs(hatchling, create gargoyle, waters of duat, web of knives recruit, some of them playing thin blooded seer...) and swarming with cloak the gathering i can see. This is hard to make work. Just an observation.

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