Assamite Princes

Deck Name : Rise of the Assamites
Author :
Description :
A deck with background story of Tegyrius leading his clan members to Camarilla.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 7.08333

3x	Tegyrius, Vizier	(9)			Assamite	(group 2)
3x	Tegyrius, Vizier Adv	(9)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Melek	(7)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Kalinda	(6)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Abd al-Rashid	(5)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Badr al-Budur	(5)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Anwar	(4)			Assamite	(group 2)
1x	Tansu Bekir	(4)			Assamite	(group 2)

Library [70 cards]

Action [12]
1x Dream World
6x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
1x Haqim's Law: Leadership
4x Khabar: Glory

Action Modifier [18]
3x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
5x Lost in Crowds
2x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions

Ally [1]
1x Deviki Prasanta

Master [13]
1x Black Throne, The
1x Blood Doll
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Effective Management
2x Obfuscate
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Tajdid
2x Tribute to the Master
2x Wider View

Political Action [26]
3x Banishment
2x Consanguineous Boon
6x Kine Resources Contested
6x Parity Shift
1x Praxis Seizure: Atlanta
1x Praxis Seizure: Barcelona
1x Praxis Seizure: Chicago
1x Praxis Seizure: Houston
1x Praxis Seizure: Miami
1x Praxis Seizure: Rome
1x Praxis Seizure: Washington, D.C.
1x Reins of Power
1x Revocation of Tyre


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Nov 05 14:58:15 2013]

Hello gentlemen,

This is my new assamite deck, I have played it in a tournament once and I think around 10 non-tournament games in it's current form and would like to hear some possible improvement suggestions to it:

1) How do you intend to oust?

The deck has kind of slow build-up phase where I first need to merge Tegyrius so I can get some initial votes, then after that all the other vampires need to get their Camarilla status. When things are set up, I usually just try to get my votes through, Tegyrius' special helps a bit against other vote decks too. There is a lot of pool gain to allow new minions come to play as well. I also added some Khabar Glory and 1 Dream World for surprise bleed assault.

2) How do you intend to keep from being ousted?

The deck is quite vulnerable to powerful bleed decks and combat decks, I haven't yet found a good solution on how to make them less a threat. I think at the moment my ability to bloat a lot pool under right circumstances and with good table talks is the main defence here, and hoping that my grand predator manages to put enough pressure on my predator.

3) What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?

My usual minion amounts have been merged Tegyrius and 2-3 other minions. If I get Praxis Seizures to them I have quite good chances in the table. Deviki Prasenta helps with getting Obfuscate masters for Tegyrius sooner so he can banish bigger minions and get stealth.

4) What do you want your avarage turn to look like?

An avarage turn with this deck is usually at least 1 minion going Camarilla if all of them aren't yet, then if I have Praxis Seizure on hand I try to talk one of those through, and then try to get through few damaging votes or a Fourth Tradition - Accounting.

5) What's your metagame like? What do your opponents play?

In Finnish metagame we have quite many combat decks. In the tournament where I was playing this deck I was lucky to have an anarch vote deck as my prey which worked quite well. I have played games with this in Lackey as well where at the moment there seems to be a trend of Auspex walls with lots of intercept and guns or sticks.

6) What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

Sometimes Praxis Seizures might have a chance to cause a hand jam but I added few Dreams of the Sphinx to try to counter that possibility. As mentioned earlier the deck is quite combat defenseless so if someone decides they want to torporize my minions they will most likely succeed in that. Blood management and pool gain are OK when I get the actions through. Maybe adding an Alamut to the deck could help but no one in my playgroup seems to have those for trade. Might have to look for one from ebay.

So I guess that's it for now. All kinds of support and ideas are much appreciated.

Ive tried Tygerious vote before. ( also, him with wall and rush combat...) and you are really a glutton for punishment for even trying it. So, heres what i see:

Im starting with the most obvious thing folks do with assamites:
Taljadid doesnt matter if yiu arent eating people. Switch it to something else. Prefereably something else helping you get votes.

Now, look at tygerious. Hes a badass. The problem is hes trying to do 4 things at once. He has the theoretically amazing but in actuality unsupported enough to matter discipline spread of AUS CEL FOR allowing for the best blocking rushing and multiacting imaginable. But we will ignore that. Hes assamite justicar merged. That matters here. He gets +1 strength. Who gives a shit, no potence and he costs too much to build around such a trivial bonus. Lastly, he has good ol presence, and hes got a vote pumping special.

Its tempting to rely on said special. Dont.

The most problematic part of the deck is the action modifiers. Tygerious will need to use vote pump to get thimgs through if other voters are at the table. At leastxone awe, one perfect paragon, maybe up to 3-4 bewitching oration, and possibly a voter cap or two. Also 2x old friends would be solid. I inderstand you think dream world omce a game along with khabar glory merits spying mission, but it doesnt. You should probably add forced marches and or freak drives. Forced march does grant stealth.
The revnant sucks, i wouldnt add more obf. Instead, resist earths grasp is an idea. You have too much goimg on with votimg to make princes. Lose the morexlikely to be contested praxis siezures, which are several mow that i see them.... miami is new lawfirm and g1 sb, so drop it, chicago has similar problems, rome is only really on euro bru and tryphosa so it may be safe
You have loads more khabar glory than needed. Dream world sucks here too. Adding epiphanny is doable for yoir star.
You have no real defence. None. Notice, i not telling you card for card what to take out.
Thats because you hace to not have some stuff to have other stuff. Now, second trad x3-4 is cool, you should run telepathic misdirection to biunce some, and on the q and black sunrise are good wake effects. I wouldnt bother with frilly assamite stuff like foul blood. No room.
Archon investigation is needed. Is pentex to contest? Set up lunge? You currently cant defend it.
Ironically, if you get rushes you are sxrewed. No trace, sideslip, or the celerity sce i cant rememberxthexnamexof could help. Again, you have too much goimg on for cool assamite stuff like selective silence into taste of death.
Im not sure why you have so many banishment. I dont see them being optimal play. Id drop at least on parity shift too. Remember, everyonexbut your starxneeds build up, and only he can multiact.

All in all, this is one of the decks i never bothered comimg back to. If i ever do, it wont be for voting, it will be combat with mergrd tygerious and tariq, and only maybe some 2nd trads and accounting requiring primce. The fact is, your allstar needs to merge to make anything happen.
You have to devote half a deck to having one justicar and some princes to do what? Call krc and pshift? And you doubt thier stealth ability. Honestly, Gangrel princes with angus is better. You are using obfuscate that not all you minions have enough of in your mind, since you added obf skill cards.

You are playing the worste version of a defenseless prince vote dexk imaginable.

Nos royalty is way better. Lawfirm in any incarnation is way better. You know what? Build lawfirm withxlucinde, queen anne, and vitel. Even run one suhailah if you want. Itll do better than this. Votes, bleeding, blocking, deflecting, ending combat and untapping, preventing damage with fortitude and disarming in some cases, graverobbimg, some stealth, and options like darimg the dawn.

If you want off the wall princes, gangrel voting, pump with lokis gift, and force of will bleeds with movement of the slow body and rapid healing is even better than this.

I hope ive given you enough things to try, but you really are doing alot of setup for nothing you cant do easier withcother vamps.
I would know, tham combat malks is one of myxearly decks. And it wasnt as terrible as every tygerious deck ive tried.

main problems I see here are lack of vote push and very long setup. It's not weenie deck, so you won't have much use of tygerius special and if you won't be able to pass your praxis votes on majority of tables your votes won't be enough to do anything. And without enough votes you have no ousting power.
If you want to keep the deck in current form I suggest putting more weenies to have better usage of tegyrius special and some alamuts are must.
And in the end what ReverendRevolver posted is totally true. You're trying to do political camarilla deck with obfuscate. You are wasting lot of deck resources for setup to make it work while you can just pick another clan (nosferatu, malkavian) and have it work just from the beggining. So, unless you want to do it just for the background story, I suggest to drop it.

Simple changes:
a. Add x5 Epiphany
b. Switch Tajdid into Alamut

More involved changes:
a. This deck seems to think it's going to get out a weenie horde what with Dream World, Tribute to the Master. I don't see it. I see getting out three vamps unless you have light pool pressure. Now, you could run Web of Knives Recruit to have more dudes.

b. One thing Teg has is Presence. Can play that up, though it's just another complication in a deck that's already trying to do something difficult.

c. More vote push actually isn't that hard to find. Bribes, Powerbase: Rome & The Parthenon, Old Friends, etc. Stealth, votes, and vote push can theoretically get you there offensively. But, you would have to move slots around.

d. This is a terrible idea in an environment with rush. You currently have no combat defense plan. With Teg lacking Obfuscate out of the gate, there really isn't a good plan, either - can't just drop some No Trace or Mental Maze in and call it a day. Celerity can get you out of problems, with Resist Earth's Grasp probably doing the most work. Still need something more. Can throw in some hitback to scare people off a bit or punish them a bit, but it's not going to flow well. I just don't think this deck is well situated for your metagame, nevermind that it's trying to do something very difficult in the first place.

Switch to using 5 basic Tegy and 1 advanced and add 4-5 Epiphany.

To go fast with this deck, you could prepare the camarilla setup before raise tegyrius. Put a lot of fida'i and low cap assamites and a lot of revocations, this would get you time to become prince with one or 2 assamites before get vote locked. And build a strong combat / block setup with tegyrius to defend your low cap princes.

You can also merge barons with camarilla. Put tegyrius as justicar to call the parity shifts and make the others anarchs to get votes faster than the camarilla build. You can even put some reckless agitation with this build, wich makes your deck even more aggressive.

Deck Name: assamite voting
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Crypt: (18 cards, Min: 5, Max: 36, Avg: 5,11)

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1 Abd al-Rashid CEL obf QUI 5 Assamite
1 Ali Kar obf qui 3 Assamite
3 Anarch Convert none 1 Caitiff
1 Anwar cel obf qui 4 Assamite
2 Fida`i cel qui 2 Assamite
1 Harika Guljan QUI 3 Assamite
1 Kanya Akhtar cel 2 Assamite
1 Melek cel OBF pre QUI7 Assamite
1 Parnassus aus CEL QUI tha7 Assamite
5 Tegyrius AUS CEL FOR pre QUI9 Assamite
1 Tegyrius AUS CEL FOR PRE QUI9 Assamite

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (20 cards)
1 Alamut
2 Archon Investigation
2 Galaric`s Legacy
3 Information Highway
1 Papillon
1 Path of Blood, The
1 Pentex(TM) Subversion
1 Seattle Committee
4 Tribute to the Master
4 Vessel

Action (12 cards)
4 Epiphany
1 Fee Stake: Boston
1 Fee Stake: Corte
1 Fee Stake: Los Angeles
1 Fee Stake: New York
1 Fee Stake: Perth
1 Fee Stake: Seattle
2 Loss

Action Modifier (18 cards)
2 Awe
2 Cloak the Gathering
3 Forced March
3 Freak Drive
2 Into Thin Air
2 Old Friends
2 Veil the Legions
2 Voter Captivation

Political Action (13 cards)
1 Anathema
2 Conservative Agitation
5 Kine Resources Contested
2 Neonate Breach
3 Parity Shift

Reaction (4 cards)
2 Black Sunrise
2 Second Tradition: Domain, The

Combat (21 cards)
2 Armor of Vitality
3 Blood Sweat
3 Blur
3 Exuding Blood
4 Selective Silence
2 Skin of Steel
4 Taste of Death

Combo (2 cards)
2 Resist Earth`s Grasp

This deck was last saved at 10:55:40 on 05/12/2013