Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
04 Dec 2013 11:15 - 04 Dec 2013 11:15 #57465
by Wand
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Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat was created by Wand
How do you intend to oust?
Taking down prey's vampires and using dragonbound, fame and tension in the ranks
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Taking down threatening vampires, bouncing some bleeds and ocasionally blocking some key actions
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Yitzak and melisande with extra strenght and some permacept (locations or bowl of convergence)
What do you want your average turn to look like?
Rush once or twice and take down at least one enemy vampire.
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Heavy combat based decks, many voters and strong Bleed & Stealth
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The deck is still failing at getting the setup done in short time, so I'm losing a lot of pool before get ready to fight.
Deck Name: cel tha !toreador
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 20, Max: 38, Avg: 7,33)
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Menele aus CEL dom POT PRE THA10 Brujah
1 Menele (ADV) aus dom CEL POT PRE THA10 Brujah
2 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
4 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (17 cards)
3 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
1 Fame
1 Frontal Assault
1 Mob Connections
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
1 Tension in the Ranks
6 Villein
1 Wash
Action (15 cards)
1 Abbot
2 Ambush
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
4 Biothaumaturgic Experiment
2 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
2 Harass
2 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (7 cards)
4 Telepathic Misdirection
3 Wake with Evening`s Freshness
Combat (47 cards)
7 Blood Rage
4 Blur
7 Psyche!
7 Pursuit
5 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
4 Sideslip
4 Target Vitals
7 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (3 cards)
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
This deck was last saved at 10:02:24 on 04/12/2013
Taking down prey's vampires and using dragonbound, fame and tension in the ranks
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Taking down threatening vampires, bouncing some bleeds and ocasionally blocking some key actions
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Yitzak and melisande with extra strenght and some permacept (locations or bowl of convergence)
What do you want your average turn to look like?
Rush once or twice and take down at least one enemy vampire.
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Heavy combat based decks, many voters and strong Bleed & Stealth
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The deck is still failing at getting the setup done in short time, so I'm losing a lot of pool before get ready to fight.
Deck Name: cel tha !toreador
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 20, Max: 38, Avg: 7,33)
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Menele aus CEL dom POT PRE THA10 Brujah
1 Menele (ADV) aus dom CEL POT PRE THA10 Brujah
2 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
4 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (17 cards)
3 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
1 Fame
1 Frontal Assault
1 Mob Connections
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
1 Tension in the Ranks
6 Villein
1 Wash
Action (15 cards)
1 Abbot
2 Ambush
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
4 Biothaumaturgic Experiment
2 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
2 Harass
2 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (7 cards)
4 Telepathic Misdirection
3 Wake with Evening`s Freshness
Combat (47 cards)
7 Blood Rage
4 Blur
7 Psyche!
7 Pursuit
5 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
4 Sideslip
4 Target Vitals
7 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (3 cards)
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
This deck was last saved at 10:02:24 on 04/12/2013
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Last edit: 04 Dec 2013 11:15 by Wand.
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04 Dec 2013 11:26 #57466
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
Cut 1/7 of the cards in each category. Then you draw into Fame or Dragonbound and have a chance of ousting somebody.
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
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04 Dec 2013 11:32 #57467
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
I have actually ousted someone yesterday, but I got a real bad time with my next prey

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04 Dec 2013 21:41 #57483
by AaronC
Replied by AaronC on topic Re: Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
I suggest making this an intercept/combat deck with aus/tha and aus/cel vampires for support, at least at first. I think it's a fun concept, but survival is a big problem. Your average crypt size is too big for a "rush deck", IMO.
Maybe you should try to get out either Yitzak or Melisande and tool up that one vampire for blocking. Bring out smaller !Toreadors for support and put in Palla Grandes for ousting power, some Presence bleed, and Art Scam for pool. Add Thaumaturgy skill cards. Get rid of Menele.
x3 Yitzak
x3 Melisande
x1 Carter
x1 Remilliard
x1 Sabrina
x1 Mercy
x1 Ian Wallingford
x1 Nicholas Chang
Just a guess - I've never played a !Toreador deck before.
Maybe you should try to get out either Yitzak or Melisande and tool up that one vampire for blocking. Bring out smaller !Toreadors for support and put in Palla Grandes for ousting power, some Presence bleed, and Art Scam for pool. Add Thaumaturgy skill cards. Get rid of Menele.
x3 Yitzak
x3 Melisande
x1 Carter
x1 Remilliard
x1 Sabrina
x1 Mercy
x1 Ian Wallingford
x1 Nicholas Chang
Just a guess - I've never played a !Toreador deck before.
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05 Dec 2013 10:37 - 05 Dec 2013 10:41 #57489
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
So, I've changed the focus to block mostly with permacepts but put some reactions to engage stealth decks. Don't know if this is going to work but I'll try it out. See if you like.
Deck Name: cel tha !toreador
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (13 cards, Min: 13, Max: 34, Avg: 5,92)
1 Carter cel 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Ian Wallingford aus CEL PRE 6 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Mercy AUS cel dom pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Victor Revell aus CEL dem pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (17 cards)
2 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
2 Fame
1 Frontal Assault
1 Palla Grande
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
1 Tension in the Ranks
5 Villein
1 Wash
1 Thaumaturgy
Action (12 cards)
2 Abbot
1 Ambush
2 Anima Gathering
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
2 Biothaumaturgic Experiment
1 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
1 Harass
1 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (18 cards)
4 Eagle`s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses
2 Eyes of Argus
2 Forced Awakening
2 On the Qui Vive
2 Quicken Sight
4 Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (38 cards)
6 Blood Rage
4 Blur
6 Psyche!
6 Pursuit
5 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
3 Sideslip
6 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (4 cards)
2 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
This deck was last saved at 09:29:30 on 05/12/2013
Deck Name: cel tha !toreador
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (13 cards, Min: 13, Max: 34, Avg: 5,92)
1 Carter cel 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Ian Wallingford aus CEL PRE 6 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Mercy AUS cel dom pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Victor Revell aus CEL dem pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (17 cards)
2 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
2 Fame
1 Frontal Assault
1 Palla Grande
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
1 Tension in the Ranks
5 Villein
1 Wash
1 Thaumaturgy
Action (12 cards)
2 Abbot
1 Ambush
2 Anima Gathering
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
2 Biothaumaturgic Experiment
1 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
1 Harass
1 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (18 cards)
4 Eagle`s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses
2 Eyes of Argus
2 Forced Awakening
2 On the Qui Vive
2 Quicken Sight
4 Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (38 cards)
6 Blood Rage
4 Blur
6 Psyche!
6 Pursuit
5 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
3 Sideslip
6 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (4 cards)
2 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
This deck was last saved at 09:29:30 on 05/12/2013
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Last edit: 05 Dec 2013 10:41 by Wand.
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05 Dec 2013 10:53 - 05 Dec 2013 10:53 #57490
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: Toreador Antitribu Taumathurgy close range combat
Or try
Crypt: (12 cards)
1 Carter cel 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Ian Wallingford aus CEL PRE 6 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Mercy AUS cel dom pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Victor Revell aus CEL dem pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (77 cards)
Master (14 cards)
2 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
2 Fame
1 Palla Grande
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
5 Villein
1 Thaumaturgy
Action (8 cards)
2 Abbot
1 Ambush
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
1 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
1 Harass
1 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (17 cards)
3 Eagle`s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses
2 Eyes of Argus
2 Forced Awakening
2 On the Qui Vive
2 Quicken Sight
4 Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (33 cards)
6 Blood Rage
3 Blur
6 Psyche!
6 Pursuit
4 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
2 Sideslip
4 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (4 cards)
2 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
Crypt: (12 cards)
1 Carter cel 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Ian Wallingford aus CEL PRE 6 Toreador Antitribu
3 Melisande AUS CEL DOM PRE tha9 Toreador Antitribu
1 Mercy AUS cel dom pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Victor Revell aus CEL dem pre5 Toreador Antitribu
3 Yitzak pre AUS CEL THA7 Toreador Antitribu
Library: (77 cards)
Master (14 cards)
2 Art of Pain, The
1 Channel 10
1 Depravity
2 Fame
1 Palla Grande
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
5 Villein
1 Thaumaturgy
Action (8 cards)
2 Abbot
1 Ambush
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
1 Bum`s Rush
1 Fleetness
1 Harass
1 Nose of the Hound
Reaction (17 cards)
3 Eagle`s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses
2 Eyes of Argus
2 Forced Awakening
2 On the Qui Vive
2 Quicken Sight
4 Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (33 cards)
6 Blood Rage
3 Blur
6 Psyche!
6 Pursuit
4 Rego Motus
2 Side Strike
2 Sideslip
4 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (4 cards)
2 Bowl of Convergence
1 Codex of the Damned
1 Veneficorum Artum Sanguis
Event (1 cards)
1 Dragonbound
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Last edit: 05 Dec 2013 10:53 by Ashur.
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