Tap and Bleed suggestions needed

derjudge wrote:

crypt :
12 weenies group 3-4

20 concealed weapon
20 flash grenades
20 penitent resilience
20 computer hacking
10 leverage

I did this, more or less,withsome presence and some other tricks. Worked like scary stealthbleed. I got a vp then the table beat me up. Caroline bishops got stolen with a 44 on her. But, brainwashes, and this combo made my first prey not stand a chance.

Weenie presence with anarch troublemakers, misdirections, mind numbs, change of targets, and majesties works very well as far as tap and bleed goes (just hope you don't run into no secrets, but laibon are pretty rare at least around here). And there is a LOT of weenies with superior presence in groups 4-5

And for some reason, I want to run 5 bombs and Rico Loco. I don't know why...

Aaah, yes, Weenie presence is always amazing, and an archetype I love. For No Secrets, you run the couple of 5 cap vamps in G4-5 that have OBF and run Elder Impersonation.

I have concerns in this deck about 1) Table Hate and 2) Long Term Game-winnability.

librarian wrote:

Aaah, yes, Weenie presence is always amazing, and an archetype I love. For No Secrets, you run the couple of 5 cap vamps in G4-5 that have OBF and run Elder Impersonation.

I have concerns in this deck about 1) Table Hate and 2) Long Term Game-winnability.

But, no concerns with boredom?

ICL wrote:

librarian wrote:

Aaah, yes, Weenie presence is always amazing, and an archetype I love. For No Secrets, you run the couple of 5 cap vamps in G4-5 that have OBF and run Elder Impersonation.

I have concerns in this deck about 1) Table Hate and 2) Long Term Game-winnability.

But, no concerns with boredom?

1. Its basically stealthbleed. Your grandprey holding4 deflections may not care, but you still bleed with 3-6 minions for 3+ each. If somebody is playing combat-combat and worries, your gone. Majesty is why grapple and psyche are played, remember.
2. You can gan pool on the actions. You gain the ousting pool. You lose if powerbleeds behimd you, and your prey probably does too. Its tricky, but id say slightly less good and slightly less boring than ks or malk 94. Adsing votingandcaps is another deck, but thats solid poolgain. I guess !torries can art scam, but bleeding and gaining pool is better.
3. Boring is a thing here. You leave a hole where your first prey is, then your longevity is based upon the tables reaction to you. They like you more than imbued, and more if they can crush you in a turn with Enkidu and the carrds in thier hand/on Enky. The hate you if they have no real way to deal with you.
This kind od deck, weenie bleed, no fortitude, ousts once, maybe, then migjt get crushed or oust again. Its one directional, and no block or bounce. But, i doubt youll be around for a timeout one way or another.

Other ideas:
Randys Deep Earth,
Jar the soul force of will
Coma rush ks? Possibly with midget, malfecia, evil eye, coma, amaranth?
Anson with torries playimg misdirection, brainwash, mind numb.....