Hell-4-Lasombra
11 Mar 2014 04:47 - 11 Mar 2014 08:43 #59820
by elotar
NC Russia



Hell-4-Lasombra was created by elotar
Deck Name : Lasombra anarchs 2014
Author : Elotar
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.25
5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:ANY
3x Conrad Adoula 8 DOM OBT POT ani cel Lasombra:4
2x Otieno 6 OBT POT ani dom Lasombra:4
2x Dr. Julius Sutphen Adv 5 POT dom obt Lasombra:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [20]
2x Black Metamorphosis
10x Bum's Rush
6x Govern the Unaligned
2x Smash and Grab
Ally [1]
1x Grey Thorne
Combat [40]
6x Dark Steel
10x Hell-for-Leather
8x Immortal Grapple
6x Taste of Vitae
10x Torn Signpost
Master [16]
4x Anarch Revolt
1x Blood Turnip
2x Fame
1x Political Hunting Ground
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Twilight Camp
4x Wider View
1x Dabbler
1x Failsafe
Reaction [12]
6x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
Retainer [1]
1x Crypt's Sons
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Mar 11 09:46:08 2014]
What do u think?
Author : Elotar
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.25
5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:ANY
3x Conrad Adoula 8 DOM OBT POT ani cel Lasombra:4
2x Otieno 6 OBT POT ani dom Lasombra:4
2x Dr. Julius Sutphen Adv 5 POT dom obt Lasombra:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [20]
2x Black Metamorphosis
10x Bum's Rush
6x Govern the Unaligned
2x Smash and Grab
Ally [1]
1x Grey Thorne
Combat [40]
6x Dark Steel
10x Hell-for-Leather
8x Immortal Grapple
6x Taste of Vitae
10x Torn Signpost
Master [16]
4x Anarch Revolt
1x Blood Turnip
2x Fame
1x Political Hunting Ground
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Twilight Camp
4x Wider View
1x Dabbler
1x Failsafe
Reaction [12]
6x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
Retainer [1]
1x Crypt's Sons
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Mar 11 09:46:08 2014]
What do u think?





Last edit: 11 Mar 2014 08:43 by elotar.
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11 Mar 2014 08:19 #59823
by Lönkka
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2) Answer as many of these questions in your description as you can:
1. How do you intend to oust?
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Hell-4-Lasombra
What do u think?
vekn.net/forum/7-deck-clinic/383-how-to-get-the-best-results-from-deck-clinic-posts
2) Answer as many of these questions in your description as you can:
1. How do you intend to oust?
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
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11 Mar 2014 08:37 - 11 Mar 2014 08:45 #59824
by elotar
NC Russia



Replied by elotar on topic Re: Hell-4-Lasombra
1. How do you intend to oust?
Govern, combat with fame/tention/obt part of h-f-l, anarch revolts
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflections, back rushes
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Adoula + second lasombra +, maybe, convert for some minor utility actions
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Bleed or other utility action + rush
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Mostly casually
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Haven't played yet, will try at the end of the week.
Govern, combat with fame/tention/obt part of h-f-l, anarch revolts
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflections, back rushes
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Adoula + second lasombra +, maybe, convert for some minor utility actions
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Bleed or other utility action + rush
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Mostly casually
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Haven't played yet, will try at the end of the week.





Last edit: 11 Mar 2014 08:45 by elotar.
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11 Mar 2014 11:04 - 11 Mar 2014 11:15 #59830
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: Hell-4-Lasombra
Hi, my remarks:
1. I would put one more different vampire in the crypt instead of second Julius to have a chance of influencing more minions.
2. Black Meta and smash and grab will be better as more governs
3. More grapples
4. You will burn through your library quickly so it's good to limit your master cards. I would drop anarch revolts, hunting grounds, 1-2 wider view and failsafe and insted put some pool gain (few villeins/ blood dolls) and 1-2 monsters
5. Put some delaying tactcs
6. Remove crypt sons. You will have always better things to do.
1. I would put one more different vampire in the crypt instead of second Julius to have a chance of influencing more minions.
2. Black Meta and smash and grab will be better as more governs
3. More grapples
4. You will burn through your library quickly so it's good to limit your master cards. I would drop anarch revolts, hunting grounds, 1-2 wider view and failsafe and insted put some pool gain (few villeins/ blood dolls) and 1-2 monsters
5. Put some delaying tactcs
6. Remove crypt sons. You will have always better things to do.
Last edit: 11 Mar 2014 11:15 by alek.
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11 Mar 2014 11:44 - 11 Mar 2014 11:45 #59832
by Timo
Replied by Timo on topic Re: Hell-4-Lasombra
OK so here are my first thought :
Why SO many Wider View ?
You play 5 Anarch Convert and you want only 2 guys out.
If you are afraid of not drawing Conrad in your initial draw, replace a convert by him.
If you like Julius, put in 1 normal and 1 advanced.
You should play more IG.
And in a lot of cases, 1 maneuver and your screwed. I mean, your only answer to maneuvers or dark steel and black meta sup :
Dark steel is played before range so your opponent will not play his swallowed sup if you allready played dark steel and he doesn't have a second one in hand
Black meta allow you a press but you only have 2 of them and you have only 2 of them in your deck and it is an (expensive) action.
Twilight camp is useless in this deck : you have 5 convert in crypt and only 3 "other vamp". It is enough for being anarch and if for some reason, you have a guy wich is not anarch, then you are better with a 1 blood action than a master useless in all the other cases.
(and failsafe is rubbish !)
And a last thing : you have 22 actions, 10 of them being rushes and your only way of multi acting is dabbler which is rubbish IMO in this deck. Monster is more reliable because you don't have to play dark steel AND hell for leather at
or
against Jake or an embrace just for untap purpose. With Monster, you play your deck and you don't have to throw away resources in order to multi-act.
In the end, you will most of the time rush once, be blocked by a chump, pass turn, lose 5 pools on a parity shift.
Why SO many Wider View ?
You play 5 Anarch Convert and you want only 2 guys out.
If you are afraid of not drawing Conrad in your initial draw, replace a convert by him.
If you like Julius, put in 1 normal and 1 advanced.
You should play more IG.
And in a lot of cases, 1 maneuver and your screwed. I mean, your only answer to maneuvers or dark steel and black meta sup :
Dark steel is played before range so your opponent will not play his swallowed sup if you allready played dark steel and he doesn't have a second one in hand
Black meta allow you a press but you only have 2 of them and you have only 2 of them in your deck and it is an (expensive) action.
Twilight camp is useless in this deck : you have 5 convert in crypt and only 3 "other vamp". It is enough for being anarch and if for some reason, you have a guy wich is not anarch, then you are better with a 1 blood action than a master useless in all the other cases.
(and failsafe is rubbish !)
And a last thing : you have 22 actions, 10 of them being rushes and your only way of multi acting is dabbler which is rubbish IMO in this deck. Monster is more reliable because you don't have to play dark steel AND hell for leather at


In the end, you will most of the time rush once, be blocked by a chump, pass turn, lose 5 pools on a parity shift.
Last edit: 11 Mar 2014 11:45 by Timo.
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11 Mar 2014 13:04 - 11 Mar 2014 13:29 #59834
by elotar
NC Russia



Replied by elotar on topic Re: Hell-4-Lasombra
Got no monsters, and no desire to buy $10+ dollar card 
What's wrong with bum's rush manuever?
For other vampires I'm listening for suggestions - basic Julius is bishop, so out of anarch deck, Black Walace looks plain worce, others are without relevant disciplines or bigger.
Don't like the idea of less masters, as is I'm burning 4,5 cards per combat, so it must not be so pressing.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.25
5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:ANY
3x Conrad Adoula 8 DOM OBT POT ani cel Lasombra:4
2x Otieno 6 OBT POT ani dom Lasombra:4
2x Dr. Julius Sutphen Adv 5 POT dom obt Lasombra:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [16]
10x Bum's Rush
7x Govern the Unaligned <
+1
Ally [1]
1x Grey Thorne
Combat [40]
5x Dark Steel <
-1
10x Hell-for-Leather
10x Immortal Grapple <
+2
5x Taste of Vitae <
-1
10x Torn Signpost
Master [17]
4x Anarch Revolt
1x Blood Turnip
2x Fame
1x Political Hunting Ground
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Guardian Angel <
+1 (bravo, depravity, 2 perfectionists?)
1x Anarch Free Press <
+1 (elisian fields, path of lilith?)
2x Wider View <
-2
4x Villein <
+4
Reaction [14]
6x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
2x Delaying Tactics <
+2
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound <
+1

What's wrong with bum's rush manuever?
For other vampires I'm listening for suggestions - basic Julius is bishop, so out of anarch deck, Black Walace looks plain worce, others are without relevant disciplines or bigger.
Don't like the idea of less masters, as is I'm burning 4,5 cards per combat, so it must not be so pressing.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.25
5x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:ANY
3x Conrad Adoula 8 DOM OBT POT ani cel Lasombra:4
2x Otieno 6 OBT POT ani dom Lasombra:4
2x Dr. Julius Sutphen Adv 5 POT dom obt Lasombra:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [16]
10x Bum's Rush
7x Govern the Unaligned <
+1
Ally [1]
1x Grey Thorne
Combat [40]
5x Dark Steel <
-1
10x Hell-for-Leather
10x Immortal Grapple <
+2
5x Taste of Vitae <
-1
10x Torn Signpost
Master [17]
4x Anarch Revolt
1x Blood Turnip
2x Fame
1x Political Hunting Ground
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Guardian Angel <
+1 (bravo, depravity, 2 perfectionists?)
1x Anarch Free Press <
+1 (elisian fields, path of lilith?)
2x Wider View <
-2
4x Villein <
+4
Reaction [14]
6x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
2x Delaying Tactics <
+2
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound <
+1





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