Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM

Hi,

I just came with this idea and I'm trying to make it viable. It would be nice if you helped me a bit with this deck build. Decided to start with 70 cards just to test the deck core.

Its basically a deck based on Julio Martinez commanding the small ones to bleed with vermin channel + mouthpiece and conditioning

How do you intend to oust?
By bleeding by 3 bleed and 3 stealth with the combo vermin channel + mouthpiece + conditioning (or just conditioning if the vamps get dominate)

How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
some obediences / combat ends to avoid rush, bounces and some DI / Delaying to stop key voting actions

What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
At least julio martinez and 2 small vamps or joseph cambridge with a master dominate and 3 vamps. Servius marius pustula can be good too with 2 small vamps.

What do you want your average turn to look like?
At least one or 2 bleeds per turn, 1 vamp to bounce or block something incoming (usually the big one to use obedience). Try to get capitalists faster to stop the big blood spending and try sometimes a inside dirt to burn prey's pool.

What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Pretty much everything from heavy combat to heavy stealth bleed / voting decks. Few toolboxes.

What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

Not yet tested. Gonna try tonight

Deck Name: Verminditioning
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Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 12, Max: 37, Avg: 6,08)

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1 Aaron Bathurst for obf pot 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Blister obf pot 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Frank Litzpar ani for pot OBF5 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Joseph Cambridge ani dom obf POT6 Nosferatu Antitribu
4 Julio Martinez ANI DOM nec OBF POT9 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Old Neddacka obf 2 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Servius Marius Pustula obf ANI CHI DOM OBT POT10 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Stick ANI 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Tock obf pot pre 4 Nosferatu Antitribu

Library: (70 cards)

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Master (13 cards)
3 Capitalist
1 Hungry Coyote, The
1 Nosferatu Kingdom
2 Villein
1 Direct Intervention
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
4 Blood Doll

Action (11 cards)
3 Inside Dirt
1 Under Siege
7 Vermin Channel

Action Modifier (23 cards)
3 Cloak the Gathering
7 Conditioning
3 Into Thin Air
7 Mouthpiece
3 Veil the Legions

Reaction (16 cards)
5 Deflection
1 Delaying Tactics
6 Obedience
4 On the Qui Vive

Combat (6 cards)
4 Flesh Bond
1 Burning Wrath
1 Canine Horde

Retainer (1 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.

This deck was last saved at 18:07:01 on 26/08/2014

Youre doing the whole reinventing the wheel thing.

If you plan on bleeding at 3 steal for 3 at the cost of 3 cards and 3 blood, Why are you doing it? There is absolutely 0 advantage here over any other stealthbleed.

Ive done cooky decks, but this ones too inefficient to utilize.

Vermin channel is just not very good. Let us know how it goes. I anticipate you running out of blood. Add coven!

*Maybe* a weenie/midcap version of this becomes playable when Lilith's Blessing gets unbanned, but right now vermin channel is just too blood-intensive... No path, no Carnival to help the !Nos. Kiasyd stealth bleed or Malk'94 blows this right out of the water I'm afraid. Good luck nonetheless!

Edit:
Second the Coven, even x2.
Giant's Blood.
Cut Burning Wrath - just too high a blood cost.

brandonsantacruz wrote:

Vermin channel is just not very good. Let us know how it goes. I anticipate you running out of blood. Add coven!

tried 2 matches yesterday, made 1 VP.

First table I got a dedicated !Malk S&B as predator and didn't got enough bounces to survive.

Second table I got a Weenie CEL gun as predator. Initially he didn't rush because he was worried with his predator, who was playing baltimore purge and chimerstry with genina and some ravnos. So I managed to play more aggressivly against my prey and made a VP before the weenie destroyed my vampires with a frontal assault and a ton of psyches / blurs.

I observed 2 problems with this build. I need mecanisms to untap the big guy, in order to bounce and play obedience. If my Servius was untapped when the guy played frontal assault, I had 2 obediences in my hand to avoid 2 of the 5 vamps he had. Thinking to add metro underground and cavalier, or some sense the savage way.

The second problem was that many mouth / conditionings got stucked in my hand because the vermin channels didn't arrived to my hand in proper time. I guess it was bad shuffling.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Youre doing the whole reinventing the wheel thing.

If you plan on bleeding at 3 steal for 3 at the cost of 3 cards and 3 blood, Why are you doing it? There is absolutely 0 advantage here over any other stealthbleed.

Ive done cooky decks, but this ones too inefficient to utilize.

The blood expense is 2, not 3. Mouthpiece doesn't cost blood. I can retrieve one of these 2 if I bleed my prey succefully with capitalist (if gets bounced I lose 2 blood and do 3 pool dmg on my crosstable)

btw the point here is not make a top tier S&B deck. Its just to make a different and interesting !nosf S&B with a good oust power and to surprise the other players using dominate on a different deck.

Anyway, gonna add some of the suggestions, like coven and remove other cards, like burning wrath, trying to reduce the blood expense.

thanks