backwards bleed malkavian

so i have 2xBH malkavian starters and 1x 3rdE malkavian starter. i also have BSC.

what can be done for backwards bleeding?

Haven't you considered bleeding your prey?

Why do you want to bleed backwards?

Heh,looks like someone is spamming again. I'll risk feeding the monster under bridge and try to answer something semi intelligent.


I have always wanted to build a deck based around superior Scrying of Secrets. Never got a round to do it. Build your normal KS stealth bleed deck, but throw in a bunch of SoS. Bleed forward normally, but each time you draw SoS do inferior KS backward and nip out any bleed card your predator happens to have on top seven cards of their deck.

pro: No need for reactions in your deck, it's all about momentum.
con: SoS is an auspex card, so you would probably be better off to just add more telepathic misdirections to your deck. Also you wand to bleed hard that's , have some Stealth and also play SoS .That is 5 points of disciplines, and playing with mid caps and larger kinda ruins the idea of fast stealth bleed.

Scrying of Secrets

Action Modifier

[Auspex] Auspex

[1 Blood]


Only usable when this vampire successfully bleeds a Methuselah.
Look at the next 7 cards in that Methuselah's library.
As above, and if any of those cards are action cards that can be used to bleed, that Methuselah discards your choice of one of those cards

Most bleed modifiers comes not from actions, but from modifiers or something like week of nightmares, so SoS is not a good defence.

The only valuable use of this card I see is to remove governs from your prey's deck. Make him less able to get vp before you or bloat.

We had an hour long conversation once about how to win by bleeding backwards;

You "oust" your predator. Your grandpredator gets to focus on your grandprey, defensively, but yoir grandprey is in deep shit because hes getting eaten alive by your prey (you know, because you are bleeding backwards).

So, your prey gets his prey, ypir grandprey gets his. This is where its tricky. Youre a KS bleed deck in a 3 way, and both other players have gained 6 extra pool and a VP each. You have to sweep or you tie. Or, if you somehow kept your grandprey alive with boons, and can get your grandpredator, thats ideal. Then, you dive forward, and who gives a damn, you either get 2 and the table or one and the table while everyone else gets 1.


Why bother? In a 4 player game, if you feel sneaky bleed is better suited to a 3 way, you can make it so easily.

Practically, if you are at a final table with kindred spirits as last seed, numerically incapable of winnin withoit taking the table, and first seed is to your right, get them gone, then lunge for 2 vps, and them let the chips fall wjere they may.


But, seriously, I bleed my predator all the time........

When we are the last 2 players at the table.