Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck
24 Mar 2015 20:20 #70039
by Elgnat
Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck was created by Elgnat
Hey there. Im trying to make a deck around 419 operation and form of corruption.
The idea is to get a bunch of small wamps out on the field and lay down several
operations. I think I have added to many cards now, that its a all over the place and that the balance is off. Anyone care to help me out?
Crypt (13 cards)
1x Arriette Sylla 3 POT Osebo
2x Black Lotus 5 aus obf ser DOM Follower of Set
3x Halim Bey 6 obf tha DOM SER Follower of Set
1x Idrissa 4 aus CEL Osebo
1x Ismitta 4 aus cel pot Osebo
1x Ahmose Chambers obf ser Follower of Set
1x Belle Equitone ser Follower of Set
1x Kamaria 3 aus pot Osebo
2x Misrak 2 pot Osebo
Library (81 Cards)
Master (20 cards)
1x Base Hunting Ground
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Opium Den
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Vessel
7x Skill: Obfuscate
1x The Barrens
1x Elder Library
1x The Parthenon
Allies (4 cards)
2x Bima
2x Saatet-ta (Bane Mummy)
Action (24 cards)
13x 419 Operation
4x Form of Corruption
6x Govern the Unaligned
Equipment (1 card)
1x The Book of Going Forth by Night
Action Modifier (13 cards)
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
1x Lost in Crowds
1x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
Reaction (10 cards)
6x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive
Combat (6 cards)
6x Dodge
Combo (3 cards)
1x Gift of Sleep
1x Osebo Kholo
1x Swallowed by the Night
So what to do? In my mind, the deck should be around 65 cards and be far more consistent. I've fielded around to long with it.
I am terrible at deck building.
The idea is to get a bunch of small wamps out on the field and lay down several
operations. I think I have added to many cards now, that its a all over the place and that the balance is off. Anyone care to help me out?
Crypt (13 cards)
1x Arriette Sylla 3 POT Osebo
2x Black Lotus 5 aus obf ser DOM Follower of Set
3x Halim Bey 6 obf tha DOM SER Follower of Set
1x Idrissa 4 aus CEL Osebo
1x Ismitta 4 aus cel pot Osebo
1x Ahmose Chambers obf ser Follower of Set
1x Belle Equitone ser Follower of Set
1x Kamaria 3 aus pot Osebo
2x Misrak 2 pot Osebo
Library (81 Cards)
Master (20 cards)
1x Base Hunting Ground
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Opium Den
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Vessel
7x Skill: Obfuscate
1x The Barrens
1x Elder Library
1x The Parthenon
Allies (4 cards)
2x Bima
2x Saatet-ta (Bane Mummy)
Action (24 cards)
13x 419 Operation
4x Form of Corruption
6x Govern the Unaligned
Equipment (1 card)
1x The Book of Going Forth by Night
Action Modifier (13 cards)
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
1x Lost in Crowds
1x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
Reaction (10 cards)
6x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive
Combat (6 cards)
6x Dodge
Combo (3 cards)
1x Gift of Sleep
1x Osebo Kholo
1x Swallowed by the Night
So what to do? In my mind, the deck should be around 65 cards and be far more consistent. I've fielded around to long with it.
I am terrible at deck building.
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24 Mar 2015 21:08 - 24 Mar 2015 21:09 #70041
by gotcha
Replied by gotcha on topic Re: Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck
Secretlibrary tells there is a tournament winning 419 deck with form of corruption ... seems like a good reference and also seems your numbers aren't all that different. Personally no experience with the combo and I guess not that many players even played a dedicated 419 deck at all .... I had some luck without the form of corruption module though and its fun fun fun (for you) to play -)
Good luck and keep us posted what the deck did in games.
www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&id=16623
Deck Name: Slovak ECQ 2014: 419 forms of corruption
Author: Matus Kovalcik (Sandmann)
Description:
Slovak ECQ
Kosice, Slovakia
21 June 2014
13 players
3R+F
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=6 avg=4.08)
===============================================
1x Arriette Sylla 3 POT Osebo:4
2x Black Lotus 5 aus obf ser DOM Follower of Set:4
3x Halim Bey 6 obf tha DOM SER Follower of Set:4
1x Idrissa 4 aus CEL Osebo:4
1x Ismitta 4 aus cel pot Osebo:4
2x Kamaria 3 aus pot Osebo:4
2x Misrak 2 pot Osebo:4
Library (66 cards)
==================
Master (12)
1x Base Hunting Ground
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Opium Den
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Powerbase: Tshwane
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Vessel
Action (22)
12x 419 Operation
4x Form of Corruption
6x Govern the Unaligned
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (11)
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
1x Lost in Crowds
1x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions
Reaction (12)
6x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
4x On the Qui Vive
Combat (5)
2x Dodge
3x Target Vitals
Combo (3)
1x Gift of Sleep
1x Osebo Kholo
1x Swallowed by the Night
Good luck and keep us posted what the deck did in games.
www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&id=16623
Deck Name: Slovak ECQ 2014: 419 forms of corruption
Author: Matus Kovalcik (Sandmann)
Description:
Slovak ECQ
Kosice, Slovakia
21 June 2014
13 players
3R+F
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=6 avg=4.08)
===============================================
1x Arriette Sylla 3 POT Osebo:4
2x Black Lotus 5 aus obf ser DOM Follower of Set:4
3x Halim Bey 6 obf tha DOM SER Follower of Set:4
1x Idrissa 4 aus CEL Osebo:4
1x Ismitta 4 aus cel pot Osebo:4
2x Kamaria 3 aus pot Osebo:4
2x Misrak 2 pot Osebo:4
Library (66 cards)
==================
Master (12)
1x Base Hunting Ground
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Mbare Market, Harare
1x Opium Den
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Powerbase: Tshwane
1x Temple Hunting Ground
4x Vessel
Action (22)
12x 419 Operation
4x Form of Corruption
6x Govern the Unaligned
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (11)
1x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
1x Lost in Crowds
1x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions
Reaction (12)
6x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
4x On the Qui Vive
Combat (5)
2x Dodge
3x Target Vitals
Combo (3)
1x Gift of Sleep
1x Osebo Kholo
1x Swallowed by the Night
Last edit: 24 Mar 2015 21:09 by gotcha.
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24 Mar 2015 21:42 - 24 Mar 2015 21:52 #70042
by Elgnat
Replied by Elgnat on topic Re: Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck
Yeah, Ive read that list. I sort of started there. Then I added Brainwash suite. Removed Brainwashes because I like my friends to much. Added obfuscate. Added other cards that seemed nice in general. Not sure if I made better or worse. 
How did your deck look Gotcha? Much different from this?

How did your deck look Gotcha? Much different from this?
Last edit: 24 Mar 2015 21:52 by Elgnat.
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24 Mar 2015 22:35 #70043
by Juggernaut1981




Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck
The obvious first part is you have 7x Obfuscate masters. With that gone, and the Parthenon since it is presumably there to help the Obfuscate Masters get out... You're down to a 73 card deck.
I'd also probably pitch the Veil the Legions in that case for Swallowed by the Night and other 'free' +1 stealth for inferior obfuscate.
Maybe 2x Mbare Market and 2x Dreams of the Sphinx would help you out.
If you are worried about stealth, then another option is to toss in some Psychic Veils.
I'd also probably pitch the Veil the Legions in that case for Swallowed by the Night and other 'free' +1 stealth for inferior obfuscate.
Maybe 2x Mbare Market and 2x Dreams of the Sphinx would help you out.
If you are worried about stealth, then another option is to toss in some Psychic Veils.





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25 Mar 2015 13:15 - 25 Mar 2015 13:15 #70062
by gotcha
Replied by gotcha on topic Re: Help with cardbalance on a 419 + Corruption deck
You can read my decklists on secretlibrary too; there is very few tw 419 decks - )
(bram)
I somehow managed with a lot of luck to make it to finals 4 out of 4 with more or less same deck (few cards tweaked). 4 player tables are much much easier then 5 player tables (less crosstable removal of brainwash / pentex). Advantage of my deck is that if you lose the forward momentum you can become quiet wallish, survive and wait for another possible right moment.
(bram)
I somehow managed with a lot of luck to make it to finals 4 out of 4 with more or less same deck (few cards tweaked). 4 player tables are much much easier then 5 player tables (less crosstable removal of brainwash / pentex). Advantage of my deck is that if you lose the forward momentum you can become quiet wallish, survive and wait for another possible right moment.
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