Deck in progress, input welcome
30 Jul 2011 17:41 #7105
by Klaital
Deck in progress, input welcome was created by Klaital
Well, this is DOM/obf bleed deck, but not really the typical straight out stealth bleed. It is really more like a bully bleed with change of targets against bounce and stealth just enough to get some key actions (like graverobbings) through. Bring biggest guy out first, preferably Titus, he starts governing out more people, after you have more than one guy out, aim to leave one untapped for deflecting, govern down always when possible to save pool, bleed forward, if it looks likely your prey has bounce, don't play stealth, just let them block and disguise out a gun and bin them with dbr, possibly follow with graverobbing. There are couple rushes to deal with problem minions, especially predator that doesn't bleed. I am just worried that I am trying to do too many things, but in any case, suggestions and opinions and the like welcome.
Crypt:
1x Robin Withers
2x Black Lotus
2x Catherine Du Bois
1x Halim Bey
1x Juggler
2x Preston Varrick
3x Titus Camille
Library: 90
Master: 10
1x Pentex Subversion
4x Sudden Reversal
1x The Barrens
1x The Coven
3x Wider View
Action: 22
4x Bum's Rush
2x Far Mastery
12x Govern the Unaligned
4x Graverobbing
Action Modifier: 24
5x Change of Target
4x Lost in Crowds
3x Mask of a Thousand Faces
4x Swallowed by the Night
8x Threats
Combat: 13
7x Disguised Weapon
6x Dragon's Breath Rounds
Equipment: 9
1x Ivory Bow
8x Saturday-Night Special
Reaction: 12
8x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive
Crypt:
1x Robin Withers
2x Black Lotus
2x Catherine Du Bois
1x Halim Bey
1x Juggler
2x Preston Varrick
3x Titus Camille
Library: 90
Master: 10
1x Pentex Subversion
4x Sudden Reversal
1x The Barrens
1x The Coven
3x Wider View
Action: 22
4x Bum's Rush
2x Far Mastery
12x Govern the Unaligned
4x Graverobbing
Action Modifier: 24
5x Change of Target
4x Lost in Crowds
3x Mask of a Thousand Faces
4x Swallowed by the Night
8x Threats
Combat: 13
7x Disguised Weapon
6x Dragon's Breath Rounds
Equipment: 9
1x Ivory Bow
8x Saturday-Night Special
Reaction: 12
8x Deflection
4x On the Qui Vive
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30 Jul 2011 22:02 #7109
by Juggernaut1981




Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Deck in progress, input welcome
I think you're spending pool like a drunken sailor. The Saturday-Night-Special + DBR thing seems like a pretty hefty waste of space. Why not just go for the obvious and more stable sleaze of No Trace, Spying Missions and the usual...?
I'm honestly not seeing how SNS+DBR will do more than jam your hand and burn pool for little result.
I'm honestly not seeing how SNS+DBR will do more than jam your hand and burn pool for little result.





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31 Jul 2011 03:20 #7114
by KevinM
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"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Deck in progress, input welcome
Every deck like this needs 1x The Bitter And Sweet Story.
Personally, I'd also run 1x Last Stand, but that's just me.
Personally, I'd also run 1x Last Stand, but that's just me.
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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31 Jul 2011 06:44 #7121
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Instead of Coven I would have Giant's Blood or Jake Washington, as I don't like giving free blood to others. Also I'd rather play magnums and that wouldn't work with Coven. 3x WV seems like too much, perhaps exchange one and the Barrens for the more multipurpose Dreams of the Sphinx.
4x Graverobbing seems like too much, could maybe take 2 off and 2 Bum's Rush off, this is not really a combat deck if you think about it and 12x GtU is going to get you into combat eventually. One Far Mastery to one Dominate Kine? There's a bunch of high-cost locations played nowdays, and Dominate Kine is multipurpose, unlike FM.
I would think Conditioning would be a greater threat with Change of Target (bleed w/o govern, threaten 4, they use wake, you govern down, or the vice versa). You don't seem to be using much blood anyway. Also I'd say that's a slim stealth package, perhaps something like 4 Conditioning/4 Bonding, 4 Conditioning/ 2 Foreshadowing Destruction / 2 Bonding, or some other mix.
Well, this just seems like too much stuff, and the DBR combat is pretty crap in my humble opinion, compared to , say T:V gun or just gun. You could just use, say, 5 DV, 7 44 magnum and 4 TV, or maybe makeshift flamethrowers (well whatever those things are). Anyway even with just a .44 magnum equipped blocking you isn't free and you avoid hitback. With T:V you threaten 4 damage.
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Master: 10
1x Pentex Subversion
4x Sudden Reversal
1x The Barrens
1x The Coven
3x Wider View
Instead of Coven I would have Giant's Blood or Jake Washington, as I don't like giving free blood to others. Also I'd rather play magnums and that wouldn't work with Coven. 3x WV seems like too much, perhaps exchange one and the Barrens for the more multipurpose Dreams of the Sphinx.
Action: 22
4x Bum's Rush
2x Far Mastery
12x Govern the Unaligned
4x Graverobbing
4x Graverobbing seems like too much, could maybe take 2 off and 2 Bum's Rush off, this is not really a combat deck if you think about it and 12x GtU is going to get you into combat eventually. One Far Mastery to one Dominate Kine? There's a bunch of high-cost locations played nowdays, and Dominate Kine is multipurpose, unlike FM.
Action Modifier: 24
5x Change of Target
4x Lost in Crowds
3x Mask of a Thousand Faces
4x Swallowed by the Night
8x Threats
I would think Conditioning would be a greater threat with Change of Target (bleed w/o govern, threaten 4, they use wake, you govern down, or the vice versa). You don't seem to be using much blood anyway. Also I'd say that's a slim stealth package, perhaps something like 4 Conditioning/4 Bonding, 4 Conditioning/ 2 Foreshadowing Destruction / 2 Bonding, or some other mix.
Combat: 13
7x Disguised Weapon
6x Dragon's Breath Rounds
Equipment: 9
1x Ivory Bow
8x Saturday-Night Special
Well, this just seems like too much stuff, and the DBR combat is pretty crap in my humble opinion, compared to , say T:V gun or just gun. You could just use, say, 5 DV, 7 44 magnum and 4 TV, or maybe makeshift flamethrowers (well whatever those things are). Anyway even with just a .44 magnum equipped blocking you isn't free and you avoid hitback. With T:V you threaten 4 damage.



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