Deck - There is bleed beyond death
12 May 2011 09:04 - 12 May 2011 09:57 #4343
by Exposer
NC Belarus
Replied by Exposer on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
Little question. Lilith's Blessing gives 3 blood. It's rather difficult to burn vampire with such amount of blood. I mean -1 for Revelations, then Force of Will at superior with Daring the Dawn. It's only a torpor afterall.
I think Crematorium is wonderful card here, or maybe Rapid Healing.
I see this deck with g4/3 vampires with some bruise elements.
We have two vampires with second strength (Troglodytia and Ignazio Giovanni) with an option of rush by Ignazio. Maybe crazy combat module like Trap + Undead Persistence or Undying Tenacity or Indomitability or Hidden Str. You don't scare of torpor because Your Crematorium works on untap phase (with House of Sorrow - twice, and perhaps it may be your enemy's vampire), then Blessed Resilense on Master phase.
The rest is the same, large master module with Parhenons. Lillith's Blessing for the second master phase action.
I think Golconda: Inner Peace or Redeem the Lost Soul or Archon Investigation could help in difficult times.
Information Highway and some Zilla's Valley should also be here.
I think Crematorium is wonderful card here, or maybe Rapid Healing.
I see this deck with g4/3 vampires with some bruise elements.
We have two vampires with second strength (Troglodytia and Ignazio Giovanni) with an option of rush by Ignazio. Maybe crazy combat module like Trap + Undead Persistence or Undying Tenacity or Indomitability or Hidden Str. You don't scare of torpor because Your Crematorium works on untap phase (with House of Sorrow - twice, and perhaps it may be your enemy's vampire), then Blessed Resilense on Master phase.
The rest is the same, large master module with Parhenons. Lillith's Blessing for the second master phase action.
I think Golconda: Inner Peace or Redeem the Lost Soul or Archon Investigation could help in difficult times.
Information Highway and some Zilla's Valley should also be here.
NC Belarus
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12 May 2011 13:06 #4350
by Damnans
No, it is not.
For instance, Unre is at 3 blood. Then she plays Revelations (-1 blood). Now she plays Force of Will (costing 1 blood and inflicting 1 aggravated damage on her), followed by a Daring the Dawn at inferior (inflicting 2 aggravated damage on her), so she burns: -1b, -1b, -3 agg. damage = vampire in the ash heap.
Truth is that there is not much room in this deck for Rapid Healings. Adding a Crematorium would be a good idea though
This variant you propose is interesting. You could circumvent bleed bounce by torporizing your prey's vampires instead of using Revelations
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Replied by Damnans on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
Little question. Lilith's Blessing gives 3 blood. It's rather difficult to burn vampire with such amount of blood. I mean -1 for Revelations, then Force of Will at superior with Daring the Dawn. It's only a torpor afterall.
No, it is not.
For instance, Unre is at 3 blood. Then she plays Revelations (-1 blood). Now she plays Force of Will (costing 1 blood and inflicting 1 aggravated damage on her), followed by a Daring the Dawn at inferior (inflicting 2 aggravated damage on her), so she burns: -1b, -1b, -3 agg. damage = vampire in the ash heap.
I think Crematorium is wonderful card here, or maybe Rapid Healing.
Truth is that there is not much room in this deck for Rapid Healings. Adding a Crematorium would be a good idea though

I see this deck with g4/3 vampires with some bruise elements.
We have two vampires with second strength (Troglodytia and Ignazio Giovanni) with an option of rush by Ignazio. Maybe crazy combat module like Trap + Undead Persistence or Undying Tenacity or Indomitability or Hidden Str. You don't scare of torpor because Your Crematorium works on untap phase (with House of Sorrow - twice, and perhaps it may be your enemy's vampire), then Blessed Resilense on Master phase.
The rest is the same, large master module with Parhenons. Lillith's Blessing for the second master phase action.
I think Golconda: Inner Peace or Redeem the Lost Soul or Archon Investigation could help in difficult times.
Information Highway and some Zilla's Valley should also be here.
This variant you propose is interesting. You could circumvent bleed bounce by torporizing your prey's vampires instead of using Revelations












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12 May 2011 13:18 #4351
by guilhem
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Replied by guilhem on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
1 direct on your daring and your completely lock. According that Anthelios is in the place you have lost the game. May be vulnerability could be an option.
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12 May 2011 13:26 #4352
by Damnans
Maybe true. But note that I may attempt to bleed with more than one vampire per turn, and therefore I'd use more than 1 Daring the Dawn per turn.
Another option to prevent that could be using both Daring the Dawn and Day Operation, even though with the latter, I should play Force of Will at inferior so that my vampire burns.
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Replied by Damnans on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
1 direct on your daring and your completely lock. According that Anthelios is in the place you have lost the game. May be vulnerability could be an option.
Maybe true. But note that I may attempt to bleed with more than one vampire per turn, and therefore I'd use more than 1 Daring the Dawn per turn.
Another option to prevent that could be using both Daring the Dawn and Day Operation, even though with the latter, I should play Force of Will at inferior so that my vampire burns.











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13 May 2011 05:29 #4370
by Exposer
You have tested this deck, was it so stable to use this combo several time per turn as you say? What were the problems you faced? What about bleed/politics defense?
NC Belarus
Replied by Exposer on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
Or, sorry for haste and innatantion. But still, without Revelations (or with blocking this thing) and FoW you may stop and waste some time.No, it is not.
For instance, Unre is at 3 blood. Then she plays Revelations (-1 blood). Now she plays Force of Will (costing 1 blood and inflicting 1 aggravated damage on her), followed by a Daring the Dawn at inferior (inflicting 2 aggravated damage on her), so she burns: -1b, -1b, -3 agg. damage = vampire in the ash heap.
You have tested this deck, was it so stable to use this combo several time per turn as you say? What were the problems you faced? What about bleed/politics defense?
NC Belarus
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13 May 2011 08:30 #4378
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Deck - There is bleed beyond death
I'd be thinking that this decks plan with a predator is to bleed out your prey faster. It's defence is getting 3VP ASAP.





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