file New player here. Lasombra Combat with a little bit of Bleed deck G4/5

27 May 2022 08:22 #105323 by Stibi_
Hi,
So I'm new to the game. Came from VTES as general and a few weeks back i finally said frick it and bought some cards.
So far I have played three games. First one being more of a learning one for both me and my opponent. Last we played in three players.
Now I think I understand the basics and can now see why cards are put in a deck and what they should do.
So as I already played my favourite clan Baali as a bleed deck in the first game I decided to try and play my second favourite clan Lasombra. I didn't want to play bleed again, at least not full bleed. So instead I tried a more combat oriented deck with a bit of bleed. I lost with it but held out pretty long and delt some decent damage.

This is the deck:
Crypt(14)G4/5
4 Badr, Shadow of Granada 7 OBT POT DOM
4 Virginie, Prodigy 6 obt POT DOM
2 Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 OBT pot DOM
2 Lucy Markowitz 3 dom bot
2 Claudia 2 obt

library(80)
2 Obtenebration
9 Arms of the Abyss
6 Govern the Unaligned
2 Black Metamorphosis
6 Eyes of the Night
6 Shadow Play
4 Shroud of Night
4 Entombment
4 Dark Steel
1 Path of Night, The
1 Political Hunting Ground
4 Deflection
1 Dragonbound
6 Torn Signpost
4 On the Qui Vive
4 Immortal Grapple
3 Ashur Tablets
2 Villein
3 Vessel
2 Bonding
2 Conditioning
2 Kevlar Vest
2 Political Struggle



One thing I'm sure about is I want to keep Badr in there for her reduction of blood costs of OBT and Black metamorhphosis as a combat tool
Do you have any suggestions?

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31 May 2022 08:02 - 31 May 2022 08:03 #105358 by Ankha
By using VDB , you can have a better view of your deck:

Deck Name: New Imported Deck
Author: ankha
Description:

Crypt (14 cards, min=10 max=28 avg=5.14)
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4x Badr, Shadow of Granada 7 DOM OBT POT Lasombra:5
4x Virginie, Prodigy 6 obt DOM POT bishop Lasombra:4
2x Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
2x Lucy Markowitz 3 dom obt Lasombra:4
2x Claudia 2 obt Lasombra:5

Library (80 cards)
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Master (12)
3x Ashur Tablets
2x Obtenebration
1x Path of Night, The
1x Political Hunting Ground
3x Vessel
2x Villein

Action (10)
2x Black Metamorphosis
6x Govern the Unaligned
2x Political Struggle

Equipment (2)
2x Kevlar Vest

Action Modifier (14)
2x Bonding
2x Conditioning
6x Shadow Play
4x Shroud of Night

Reaction (14)
4x Deflection
6x Eyes of the Night
4x On the Qui Vive

Combat (27)
9x Arms of the Abyss
4x Dark Steel
4x Entombment
4x Immortal Grapple
6x Torn Signpost

Event (1)
1x Dragonbound

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Last edit: 31 May 2022 08:03 by Ankha.

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31 May 2022 08:17 #105359 by Ankha

Crypt (14 cards, min=10 max=28 avg=5.14)
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4x Badr, Shadow of Granada 7 DOM OBT POT Lasombra:5
4x Virginie, Prodigy 6 obt DOM POT bishop Lasombra:4
2x Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
2x Lucy Markowitz 3 dom obt Lasombra:4
2x Claudia 2 obt Lasombra:5


I don't think it's really useful to double Lucy and Claudia.
Also, Virginie seems an odd choice if you plan to play OBT POT combat, because she doesn't have superior OBF.

Library (80 cards)
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Master (12)


3x Ashur Tablets
2x Obtenebration
1x Path of Night, The
1x Political Hunting Ground
3x Vessel
2x Villein


Ashur Tablets are not very useful in a combat deck since they tend to hinder your cardflow. And 3 copies are not enough to really use them as your third copy may be in the 20 last cards of your deck.
I'd remove them, remove the Obtenebration skill to include a vampire that already has OBT. And if you want to play combat, there are a few cards that could be useful, such as Fame.

Action (10)


2x Black Metamorphosis
6x Govern the Unaligned
2x Political Struggle

Keep in mind that Political Struggle requires one action before being able to enter combat. 2 rush cards seem very low if you plan to enter combat to use your combat cards (since you won't block much).

Equipment (2)


2x Kevlar Vest

These are good cards, but are they worth the action?

Action Modifier (14)


2x Bonding
2x Conditioning
6x Shadow Play
4x Shroud of Night

I'm not sure that lot of stealth is compatible with a combat deck. Are you planning to stealth your bleeds for 1, or do you prefer entering combat?

Reaction (14)


4x Deflection
6x Eyes of the Night
4x On the Qui Vive

Eyes of the Night is a great card, but you'll never get pass 1 intercept. If you plan to block, at least include an Aranthebes and a WMRH Talk Radio for extra intercept.
Too bad Under Siege and Badr don't work together (Badr is Independent)

Combat (27)


9x Arms of the Abyss
4x Dark Steel
4x Entombment
4x Immortal Grapple
6x Torn Signpost

27 combat cards don't make a combat deck, you'd need almost the double.
Also, it's weird to play Arms of the Abyss / Entombment, and Immortal Grapple/Torn Signpost since those are two mutually exclusive combat strategies.

Event (1)


1x Dragonbound

I'd start with some copies of Fame before adding a Dragonbound. Dragonbound is not a great idea when you play Entombment since vampires will have the blood to get out.

So, my advice would be to switch to some real oust module and strategy, for instance:
Fame (at least 4)
Arms of the Abyss / Entombment
Haven Uncovered / Political Struggle

The strategy would be to send to torpor the Fame with Entombment, then rescue it (by spending his blood), then send it back again to torpor.

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31 May 2022 11:18 - 31 May 2022 13:25 #105360 by elotar
If we really want to play with Black Meta then we need combat module which uses both additional strikes and presses.

Something like this:

Deck Name: Badr Meta
Author: elotar

Crypt (12 cards, min=20 max=29 avg=6.08)
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3x Badr, Shadow of Granada 7 DOM OBT POT Lasombra:5
2x Onaedo 6 aus pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
2x Otieno 6 ani dom OBT POT Lasombra:4
2x Andrew Emory 5 aus dom pot OBT bishop Lasombra:4
2x Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
1x Charles Delmare 8 cel DOM OBT POT cardinal Lasombra:5

Library (90 cards)
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Master (11)
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Elysian Fields
2x Fame
1x Path of Night, The
3x Perfectionist
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x WMRH Talk Radio

Action (18)
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
3x Black Metamorphosis
8x Govern the Unaligned
6x Harass

Action Modifier (4)
3x Conditioning
1x Foreshadowing Destruction

Reaction (21)
7x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
4x Eyes of the Night
4x On the Qui Vive
1x Redirection
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Combat (36)
8x Dark Steel
8x Darkness Within
4x Glancing Blow
6x Immortal Grapple
4x Taste of Vitae
6x Torn Signpost

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Last edit: 31 May 2022 13:25 by elotar. Reason: Fixing combat module
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