Soft Grinding Kyasid

Heyho! My first post in this forum.. wow.

I had some thoughts about the good old grinder decks. Somehow, I'm tired of playing Owain and Blackhorse, and to be honest, G4/5 Ventrue are not that different, just a little more active.
So what to do? I had the idea of a "soft" grinder deck with Kyasid. Like a Kyasid toolbox, close to the Ventrue grinders, just not that much block and not such a sturdy combat. Instead of this i added a little more "trick".

Here's the deck:

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 7

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3x Pherydima 8 DOM MYT NEC obt pot bishop Kiasyd:4
3x Isanwayen 6 DOM MYT OBT Kiasyd:4
2x Omme Enberbenight 7 MYT OBT cel dom priscus Kiasyd:4
1x Arcadian, The 8 DOM MYT OBT chi for Kiasyd:5
2x Roderick Phillips 7 DOM MYT cel obt tha Kiasyd:4
1x Dame Hollerton 5 DOM OBT myt Kiasyd:4


Library [90 cards]

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Action [15]
2x Abbot
1x Goblinism
8x Govern the Unaligned
2x Gremlins
1x Pandora's Whisper
1x Riddle Phantastique

Action Modifier [3]
2x Conditioning

Action Modifier/Combat [6]
6x Fae Contortion

Combat [16]
2x Absorb the Mind
2x Arms of the Abyss
2x Darkling Trickery
6x Earth Swords
4x Oubliette

Equipment [2]
1x Aaron's Feeding Razor
1x Palatial Estate

Master [23]
1x Lilith's Blessing
1x Festivo dello Estinto
1x Giant's Blood
1x Great Symposium
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Hungry Coyote, The
1x Obtenebration
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Ravager
3x Vessel
6x Villein
1x Wider View
1x Info Highway

Reaction [25]
4x Covincraft
6x Deflection
4x Faerie Wards
4x Folderol
2x Obedience
6x On the Qui Vive
2x Aura Absorption

- How do you intend to oust?
I plan to wear down my prey with occasional deflections and bleed. When he is tapped out/low on blood in the mid/endgame I bleed repeatedly, if possible with Govern.

-How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Reduce bleeds, block low-stealth actions, deflect. Got kinda problem with vote decks, but Covincraft could help in addition to my vampire's votes.

-What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
The best would be Pherydima and Isanwayen... denpending on my predator one additional 7-cap. Hungry Coyote would be fine, but not neccesary.

-What do you want your average turn to look like?
depends on the game phase:
Early game/buildup phase: Govern down to influence more minions and maybe some build up actions like Abbot, Aaron's feeding Razor or Goblinism.
Mid game: play under the radar, no heavy bleed, just bloat a little (via hunt/Vessel and Govern) and some disrupting actions (like Gremlins (destroy equipment), Goblinism (on potence),
Late game: wear down the enemy, bleed often, take actions against his permanents, if possible


-What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
A few Ally Decks, not too agressive, more combat aligned.

-What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
none so far, will test it tomorrow


Some further explanations:
- I decided to go for Vessel instead of Blood Doll, simply because the mass of Master Cards. A jam should not occur with 10 trifles and Isanwayen.
- Hungry Coyote, Aaron's Feeding Razor and Ravager is a cool combo, so ist Festivo dello Estinto and Ravager, especially with steady Villeins or one or two Vessels. The Razor and Ravager should be played on Pherydima, because her special lets me untap her at the end of turn.
- Use Goblinism to search for (1st) Hungry Coyote or (2nd) Heidelberg. Or if I don't need any of those (or have them already) to destroy an Important location of an enemy (Pherydima is sooo potent )
- I play a variety of combat cards to be not that predictable.
- Should add 1 or two Entombment instead of Oubliette or Earth Swords.. I just do not own any.
- One card I think I could drop is Pentex.
- Cards thatcould be worth to include: 1 Resume the Coil, 1 Scarlet Lore, 1 Chair of Hades

So what do you think about that?

Your idea is pretty good. I thought the same and made similar deck.
I think you can reduce the deck to 80 cards without much problems.
The main issues that I see are:
1) You lack on ousting capabilities. Some tapping resources in form of anarch troublemaker, misdirection and stone travel could be really useful.
Song of Pan should be played the turn you are going to oust your prey.
2) You lack on defense against undirected action. More aura absorbtion and some intercept location can do the job.

About your combat module, I think you are right thinking of adding more earth swords ( a retio of 1 earth sword every ten cards in your deck or little bit more would be fine in my oppinion).

Also don't forget Eyes of the Night for another free intercept card.

Thank you for your comments!

Eyes of the night and intercept locations are good calls... thought about them before, didn't add them because my master module is already very huge, so I decided not to block that much and dropped the eyes too. But I will include them again. Changes I do before my first test today:

-2x Obedience
-1x Heidelberg Castle
-1x Pentex Subversion
-1x Wider View
-2x Faerie Wards
-1x Oubliette

+1x WMRH Talk Radio
+1x KRCG News Radio
+1x Channel 10
+1x Aura Absorption
+3x Eyes of the Night
+1x Earth Swords

I think I will do changes that concern ousting power, when my defense is fine.

Don't forget Tinglestripe!

How about this deck ???

Reduced to 81 cards, mantaining the core of your deck defense and bloating modules and adding subtle modifications that grant it more ousting power.
I hope you like it !!!



Master 20, 9 trifles

1x Symposium
1x Lilith´s
1x Giant´s
1x Ravager
1x Hungry Coyote
1x Pentex
1x Festivo
2x Intercept locations
2x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Wider view
3x Vessel
5x Villein

Actions 16

8x Govern
2x Gremlins
1x Abbot
1x Song of Pan
1x Goblinism

1x Equipment ( Tinglestripe or Palatial)
2x Nocturns

Modifiers 8

2x Conditioning
1x Stone Travel
5x Fae Contortion

Combat 15

8x Earth Swords
5x Darkling Trickery
2x Oubliette

Reaction 22

2x Faerie Wards or 1 Faerie & 1 Obedience
1x Delaying or Covincraft
5x Aura Absorbtion
2x Eyes of night
6x Untaps
5x Deflection
1x Murmur or Redirection