17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
05 Aug 2023 14:25 - 05 Aug 2023 14:26 #108926
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
Replied by Hakuron on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
I had been under the same impression, thus I double-checked reading 4.5 of the Tournament Rules and asking Vincent.I was under the impression that the use of proxies was explicitly prohibited form the higher en d of the tournaments, Continental Championships, National Championships and Grand Prizes..
National Coordinator Germany
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Last edit: 05 Aug 2023 14:26 by Hakuron. Reason: Grammar
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05 Aug 2023 14:57 #108927
by emime
I guess they went for a fully literal reading of the rule: "the organizer of an event that is neither a National Championship nor a Continental Championship can choose to allow proxy cards".
I am of the impression - although I can be wrong - that this rule was written in an era when the Grand Prix did not exist. And by extension/analogy, like you, I always assumed that a Grand Prix was of a higher nature than a National Championship (hence I did not allow proxies in the Belgian GP), but if you are a lawyer then...
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Replied by emime on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
I was under the impression that the use of proxies was explicitly prohibited form the higher en d of the tournaments, Continental Championships, National Championships and Grand Prizes..
I guess they went for a fully literal reading of the rule: "the organizer of an event that is neither a National Championship nor a Continental Championship can choose to allow proxy cards".
I am of the impression - although I can be wrong - that this rule was written in an era when the Grand Prix did not exist. And by extension/analogy, like you, I always assumed that a Grand Prix was of a higher nature than a National Championship (hence I did not allow proxies in the Belgian GP), but if you are a lawyer then...
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05 Aug 2023 15:55 #108928
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
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Replied by Hakuron on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
There would have been time enough to change the paragraph 4.5 accordingly, but this did not happen.
I asked again via e-mail to be on the safe side, and after receiving an okay I left the drcision to the organiser's discretion.
Since there have already been requests for the use of proxies he decided to allow them.
If you wish to discuss whether Grand-Prix tournament should generally be run without proxies, please open up a new thread and do it there. Thanks in advance.
I asked again via e-mail to be on the safe side, and after receiving an okay I left the drcision to the organiser's discretion.
Since there have already been requests for the use of proxies he decided to allow them.
If you wish to discuss whether Grand-Prix tournament should generally be run without proxies, please open up a new thread and do it there. Thanks in advance.
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08 Aug 2023 20:41 #108973
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Hey Lönkka,
I was of the same conviction. After I received some inquiries whether proxies were allowed, I had checked the situation together with our NC Rudolf. As a result, Rudolf had also contacted Black Chantry, who confirmed that proxies were allowed at a Grand Prix. Based on this, I have made the decision that proxies will be allowed.
Best regards
Steffen aka MacReady
I was of the same conviction. After I received some inquiries whether proxies were allowed, I had checked the situation together with our NC Rudolf. As a result, Rudolf had also contacted Black Chantry, who confirmed that proxies were allowed at a Grand Prix. Based on this, I have made the decision that proxies will be allowed.
Best regards
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
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08 Aug 2023 20:44 - 08 Aug 2023 21:03 #108974
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Update 01 - Support by Ultra PRO
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.![;) ;)](/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png)
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
[img=https://abload.de/img/img_4952ewedo.jpg]
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
![;) ;)](/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png)
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
[img=https://abload.de/img/img_4952ewedo.jpg]
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
![:ANI: :ANI:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAnimalismSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:VIC: :VIC:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisVicissitudeSup.gif)
![:cap5: :cap5:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity5.gif)
![:tzim: :tzim:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanTzimisce.gif)
Last edit: 08 Aug 2023 21:03 by MacReady.
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08 Aug 2023 20:45 - 08 Aug 2023 20:47 #108975
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Update 01 - Support by Ultra PRO
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.![;) ;)](/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png)
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
![;) ;)](/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png)
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
![File Attachment:](https://abload.de/img/img_4952kwdq6.jpg)
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
![:ANI: :ANI:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAnimalismSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:VIC: :VIC:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisVicissitudeSup.gif)
![:cap5: :cap5:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity5.gif)
![:tzim: :tzim:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanTzimisce.gif)
Last edit: 08 Aug 2023 20:47 by MacReady.
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