17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
05 Aug 2023 14:25 - 05 Aug 2023 14:26 #108926
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
Replied by Hakuron on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
I had been under the same impression, thus I double-checked reading 4.5 of the Tournament Rules and asking Vincent.I was under the impression that the use of proxies was explicitly prohibited form the higher en d of the tournaments, Continental Championships, National Championships and Grand Prizes..
National Coordinator Germany
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Last edit: 05 Aug 2023 14:26 by Hakuron. Reason: Grammar
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05 Aug 2023 14:57 #108927
by emime
I guess they went for a fully literal reading of the rule: "the organizer of an event that is neither a National Championship nor a Continental Championship can choose to allow proxy cards".
I am of the impression - although I can be wrong - that this rule was written in an era when the Grand Prix did not exist. And by extension/analogy, like you, I always assumed that a Grand Prix was of a higher nature than a National Championship (hence I did not allow proxies in the Belgian GP), but if you are a lawyer then...
Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels
Replied by emime on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
I was under the impression that the use of proxies was explicitly prohibited form the higher en d of the tournaments, Continental Championships, National Championships and Grand Prizes..
I guess they went for a fully literal reading of the rule: "the organizer of an event that is neither a National Championship nor a Continental Championship can choose to allow proxy cards".
I am of the impression - although I can be wrong - that this rule was written in an era when the Grand Prix did not exist. And by extension/analogy, like you, I always assumed that a Grand Prix was of a higher nature than a National Championship (hence I did not allow proxies in the Belgian GP), but if you are a lawyer then...
Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels
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05 Aug 2023 15:55 #108928
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
Replied by Hakuron on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
There would have been time enough to change the paragraph 4.5 accordingly, but this did not happen.
I asked again via e-mail to be on the safe side, and after receiving an okay I left the drcision to the organiser's discretion.
Since there have already been requests for the use of proxies he decided to allow them.
If you wish to discuss whether Grand-Prix tournament should generally be run without proxies, please open up a new thread and do it there. Thanks in advance.
I asked again via e-mail to be on the safe side, and after receiving an okay I left the drcision to the organiser's discretion.
Since there have already been requests for the use of proxies he decided to allow them.
If you wish to discuss whether Grand-Prix tournament should generally be run without proxies, please open up a new thread and do it there. Thanks in advance.
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
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08 Aug 2023 20:41 #108973
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Hey Lönkka,
I was of the same conviction. After I received some inquiries whether proxies were allowed, I had checked the situation together with our NC Rudolf. As a result, Rudolf had also contacted Black Chantry, who confirmed that proxies were allowed at a Grand Prix. Based on this, I have made the decision that proxies will be allowed.
Best regards
Steffen aka MacReady
I was of the same conviction. After I received some inquiries whether proxies were allowed, I had checked the situation together with our NC Rudolf. As a result, Rudolf had also contacted Black Chantry, who confirmed that proxies were allowed at a Grand Prix. Based on this, I have made the decision that proxies will be allowed.
Best regards
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
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08 Aug 2023 20:44 - 08 Aug 2023 21:03 #108974
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Update 01 - Support by Ultra PRO
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
[img=https://abload.de/img/img_4952ewedo.jpg]
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
[img=https://abload.de/img/img_4952ewedo.jpg]
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Last edit: 08 Aug 2023 21:03 by MacReady.
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08 Aug 2023 20:45 - 08 Aug 2023 20:47 #108975
by MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Replied by MacReady on topic 17.09.2023 - Grand Prix Germany 2023 | Essen, NRW
Update 01 - Support by Ultra PRO
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
Dear Methuselahs,
slowly but surely we are heading towards the Grand Prix in Germany, which by the way will take place on 09/17/2023 in Essen at the White Rabbit.
And slowly but surely it's time to present you the prize support we've accumulated so far. The start is made by Ultra PRO with a considerable amount of prizes:
More pictures will follow in the coming days. This much is said: Nobody will go empty-handed!
Until then!
Steffen aka MacReady
MacReady | VEKN 8580064
Prince of Herne | NRW | Germany | ID 557
Last edit: 08 Aug 2023 20:47 by MacReady.
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