Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
14 May 2025 12:52 #114454
by acbishop
Last year there was one NC in the Balkans region (don't remember the country) where proxies were allowed, organiser contacted Hugh and he gave the approval for that, at the end an organiser can decide for these tournaments if it would be better in order to increase participation to allow proxies and check with Hugh or anyone from organised play to get the ok for that
Replied by acbishop on topic Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
This is still valid (and it IS a National Championship):
www.vekn.net/tournament-rules
"4.5. Proxy Cards
As long as the game is not under production, the organizer of an event that is neither a National Championship nor a Continental Championship can choose to allow proxy cards in his or her event. For events where proxy cards are allowed, several points apply:
there are no limit to the number of proxy cards a deck can have
every proxy card must be a color-copy of the original card, on standard paper
the quality of the print must allow the reading of the illustrator's name
the organizer must mark the event as 'allowing proxy cards' on the VEKN calendar"
Proxy-cards must be inserted in an opaque sleeve (along the rest of the crypt and/or library), before a regular VTES card.
Otherwise, the use of proxy cards is not permitted, unless a judge provides these cards. If a card becomes excessively worn through play or accidentally damaged in the current sanctioned tournament, or if the owner of the card must leave prior to the conclusion of a game, the judge may provide a proxy replacement card or (in the case of damaged or worn cards) require the player to sleeve all of his or her cards before play continues.
When a judge creates a proxy for a player, it is included in the player's deck. The original card is kept close at hand during the game, if possible. When the proxy is in play, replace it with the original. When it returns to the player's deck/hand, swap it with the proxy. This replacement method helps ensure that the opponent is able to clearly see the intended card and to avoid confusion.
The term "proxy" includes counterfeit cards or any card that is not a genuine game card. Counterfeiters will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
Last year there was one NC in the Balkans region (don't remember the country) where proxies were allowed, organiser contacted Hugh and he gave the approval for that, at the end an organiser can decide for these tournaments if it would be better in order to increase participation to allow proxies and check with Hugh or anyone from organised play to get the ok for that

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14 May 2025 12:55 #114455
by acbishop
Replied by acbishop on topic Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
Austria and Serbia allowed proxies on their NC last year
www.vekn.net/forum/europe/81349-danubian-battle-royal-serbian-nationals-2024-belgrade-04-05-2024#111226
www.vekn.net/forum/europe/81349-danubian-battle-royal-serbian-nationals-2024-belgrade-04-05-2024#111226

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15 May 2025 12:42 #114459
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
HERESY!
And against the rules.
NOWHERE does it say that BCP or anybody else is allowed to make such exceptions.
I'm not against allowing them, I'm just against bending the rules.
I think it is WAY easier to either not have them allowed or just allow them for all. If it is possible to have exceptions case by case it gets unnecessarily complicated and installs bureaucracy which is not needed.
And if there is a method of applying for exception it should be written to the rules and not based on the fact that someone has the connections or the balls to contact the right person(s)...
And against the rules.
NOWHERE does it say that BCP or anybody else is allowed to make such exceptions.
I'm not against allowing them, I'm just against bending the rules.
I think it is WAY easier to either not have them allowed or just allow them for all. If it is possible to have exceptions case by case it gets unnecessarily complicated and installs bureaucracy which is not needed.
And if there is a method of applying for exception it should be written to the rules and not based on the fact that someone has the connections or the balls to contact the right person(s)...
Finnish
Politics!

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15 May 2025 12:52 #114460
by ur_vampire
Replied by ur_vampire on topic Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
And, if remember correct, Germany allowed proxies on their last GP
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18 May 2025 18:40 #114473
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Replied by alf on topic Swiss National Championship 12-13 July 2025
The rule only states NC and CC, so a GP is totally fine according to the rules.And, if remember correct, Germany allowed proxies on their last GP
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