EC 2017 - Questions to judges

Ian Forestal
Ian can't play multi-discipline cards if he doesn't have at least one discipline

Going anarch
The cardless action is not subject to NRA.

Erciyes Fragments
You can't discard a political card on the Erciyes to gain a vote during a referendum.

Scalpel Tongue
It can't be played during a Blood Hunt.

Shuffle uncontrolled region vs Brainwash
EDIT: You CAN shuffle your uncontrolled region in order to make other players lose track of the vampires (for instance the one you've just drawn by spending 1 pool and 4 transfers).

Do not replace clause
The DNR clause is not applied when the card is cancelled (eg. Direct Intervention)

Field Training
It can be played on a anarch.

Kholo
Not playable by a non-acting vampire when another of your vampires is acting. (The acting vampire was not of the clan required by the Kholo).

Abactor
Can be used by an empty vampire when they do a mandatory hunt.

Song of Pan
Playing it at 1 pool by mistake is currently legal (was blocked by an Eagle Sight).

Eagle Sight
The prey can't try to block again with Eagle Sight after declining to block.

Jake Washington
If stolen, goes to its owner ash heap when burned.

Yawp Court
Can't be used after the terms have been declared (must be used after the resolution of the action (when it's not blocked), before starting the referendum (and declaring the terms))

Serpent's Numbing Kiss
Psyche! at superior cancels the additional effects that would happen after the combat ends.

Infernal Pursuit
Can't be played by the reacting minion before the acting minion declares their "before range" effects at the start of a combat (unless the acting passes the impulse, of course).

Kine Resources Contested
You can assign more damage to players than they have pool

Art Museum
Can't be used twice a turn with House of Sorrow.

My mistake, there is another ruling that states something that could seem contradictory:

[LSJ 20030908]

The uncontrolled region is to
crypt cards what the hand is to library cards. But cards are tracked in
the uncontrolled region. They are only tracked because of Banishment
(and similar effects that followed the printing of Banishment). Banishment
requires that the cards on the uncontrolled vampire (retainers, equipment,
etc.) remain with the vampire. Therefore, the vampire must be tracked.
Since it is being tracked, other effects (Contract, Blood Bond, etc.)
are also able to track it.

To sum up how both rulings work together:

Let's consider an uncontrolled region containing two Smudge, one of which was chosen for Divine Sign then later banished, and one that has never been in play.

The tracking of which Smudge is which can be done using a piece of paper visible only when the card is face up.
If both Smudge has the same amount of blood on them, or the same cards on them, they are indistinguishable. When one of them comes into play, players know which is which thanks to the piece of paper.

Players are allowed to shuffle their uncontrolled region, the same way as they can shuffle their hand. Both uncontrolled region and hand has no order.

This means you can draw a card from your crypt, then rearrange their order so that other players don't know which was the card drawn.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Ankha wrote:

Song of Pan
Playing it at 1 pool by mistake is currently legal (was blocked by an Eagle Sight).

This is also incorrect or a reversal.

In www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/57938-can-you-oust-yourself-by-accidentally-playing-a-card-with-a-pool-cost-that-would-kill-you?limit=10&start=30#58553, Pascal completely abandoned the idea of players making mistakes when it comes to self ousting. If a card would self oust you, its play is entirely forbidden by that ruling. (Edit: except where you've already won.)

See also the discussion in this thread: www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/75087-hostile-takeover?limitstart=0


(I thought the ruling was wrong as it appeared to proceed from Pascal starting from a fundamentally wrong premise, and prevents players from making interesting or risky judgment calls. But that is the rule as it stands.)

This is still under discussion as part of a global reflection about self-ousting, so his ruling should be considered as "pending" until then.