Card idea: The Sweeper (Vampire)
03 Nov 2011 19:13 #13294
by Juggernaut1981
Rewrite and small edit.
The Sweeper

Group 5
Cap 4


Sabbat. The Sweeper may remove 3 cards at random in any Methuselah's ash heap as a hunt action, if he targets your own ashheap it is at +1 stealth. In every Methuselahs untap if their ashheap is empty and the Sweeper is ready they burn 1 pool. The Sweeper cannot block undirected actions. -1 intercept.




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Card idea: The Sweeper (Vampire)
Name: The Sweeper
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu antitribu
Group: 5
Capacity: 4
Discipline: OBF ani
Sabbat: The Sweeper may remove 3 cards in any Methuselah's ash heap from the game to gain 1 blood as a +1 stealth action. If the Sweeper is ready, a Methuselah whose ash heap is empty burns 1 pool during his or her untap phase. -1 intercept.
Rewrite and small edit.
The Sweeper

Group 5
Cap 4


Sabbat. The Sweeper may remove 3 cards at random in any Methuselah's ash heap as a hunt action, if he targets your own ashheap it is at +1 stealth. In every Methuselahs untap if their ashheap is empty and the Sweeper is ready they burn 1 pool. The Sweeper cannot block undirected actions. -1 intercept.





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03 Nov 2011 20:15 - 03 Nov 2011 23:28 #13299
by Brum
Correct.
EDIT: I was wrong, since targeting any Ash Heap does count as a
Action. Sorry.
EDIT: Jeff's post proves that this is incomplete and not relevant.
About the vampire: thematically he could have
instead of 
I agree with Adam that he should be bigger, even if he removes cards at random.
Replied by Brum on topic Re: Card idea: The Sweeper (Vampire)
As a reminder, actions against methuselahs are not directed, meaning that both prey and predator may block it (thus the +1 stealth to counterbalance it).
I'm pretty sure actions against Meths, such as bleeds are directed actions. Anything targeting something I own, including my ash heap, is directed at me. His special would be directed.
It should be a +1 stealth hunt action.
Correct.
EDIT: I was wrong, since targeting any Ash Heap does count as a

1. Who May Attempt to Block: If the action targets one or more other Methuselahs (or things controlled by other Methuselahs), then the action is called directed (...)
EDIT: Jeff's post proves that this is incomplete and not relevant.
About the vampire: thematically he could have


I agree with Adam that he should be bigger, even if he removes cards at random.
Last edit: 03 Nov 2011 23:28 by Brum.
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03 Nov 2011 20:18 - 03 Nov 2011 20:18 #13300
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Card idea: The Sweeper (Vampire)
The 2 specials do not have to belong to the same card. I am not a big fan of the winning condition being on a vampire: it opens much less options than if it was on a library card.
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03 Nov 2011 22:19 #13302
by Adonai
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The ash heap is uncontrolled.
Actions that target an ash heap are always undirected.
www.vekn.net/index.php/all-rulings/general-rulings
Actions that target an ash heap are always undirected.
www.vekn.net/index.php/all-rulings/general-rulings
Directed Actions:
Actions which target another player's hand, uncontrolled region, crypt, or library (or cards therein) are directed at that player. (Actions which target another player's ash heap are undirected by default). [LSJ 20010924] [LSJ 20010926]
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03 Nov 2011 22:36 #13307
by Juggernaut1981




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That seems VERY counterintuitive.





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04 Nov 2011 06:13 #13321
by Ankha
Other actions against Methuselahs are of course directed.
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Correct. There were some words missing in my sentence:The ash heap is uncontrolled.
Actions that target an ash heap are always undirected.
www.vekn.net/index.php/all-rulings/general-rulings
Directed Actions:
Actions which target another player's hand, uncontrolled region, crypt, or library (or cards therein) are directed at that player. (Actions which target another player's ash heap are undirected by default). [LSJ 20010924] [LSJ 20010926]
As a reminder, actions against methuselahs' ash heaps are not directed, meaning that both prey and predator may block it (thus the +1 stealth to counterbalance it).
Other actions against Methuselahs are of course directed.
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