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14 Dec 2011 14:29 - 14 Dec 2011 14:30 #18381 by Ankha
Card idea: Declaration of War was created by Ankha
Name: Declaration of War
Cardtype: Political Action
Requires a ready archbishop, cardinal or regent.
Successful referendum means each Methuselah loses 1 pool for each ready Sabbat vampire controlled by his or her predator. Pool lost this way is divided and allocated evenly (round down; unallocated pool goes to the blood bank) between each Methuselah controlling at least one ready Sabbat vampire. Seraphs have 1 additional vote in this referendum. Only one Declaration of War can be played or called in a game.
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14 Dec 2011 15:06 - 14 Dec 2011 15:06 #18387 by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Card idea: Declaration of War
Shouldn't the pool gain happen before the pool loss to avoid fake ousts? It would be more complicated to word that way, though.
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14 Dec 2011 15:06 - 14 Dec 2011 15:07 #18388 by er-principe
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Moved to the card ideas section
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14 Dec 2011 15:14 #18390 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Card idea: Declaration of War

Shouldn't the pool gain happen before the pool loss to avoid fake ousts? It would be more complicated to word that way, though.


The Eternal of Sirius precedent (you can play it at 4 pool without being ousted) may mean this will not cause trouble.

I'm not too thrilled. Toreador Palla Grande does not need this, and while it is fitting for sabbat to have strength by number, the overall feel is not too flavorful or exciting.

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14 Dec 2011 15:24 #18392 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Card idea: Declaration of War

Shouldn't the pool gain happen before the pool loss to avoid fake ousts? It would be more complicated to word that way, though.


The Eternal of Sirius precedent (you can play it at 4 pool without being ousted) may mean this will not cause trouble.

Yes, the vote resolves as a whole. See also Reins of Power, Ancient Influence etc.

I'm not too thrilled. Toreador Palla Grande does not need this, and while it is fitting for sabbat to have strength by number, the overall feel is not too flavorful or exciting.

The only abuse would be with a swarm deck but
1/ swarm decks rarely play archbishops. This would make them add one or more archbishops in order to play the card
2/ the card is "once per game", so building a whole tech around this deck is maybe a little waste.
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14 Dec 2011 15:33 #18394 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Card idea: Declaration of War
They are archbishop as small as 4-cap or 5-cap, Creations rites is already a pretty sweet card for swarming, and without swarming the card is way too random - with a full sabbat table you will do next to nothing, and you may end up with an unplayable vote if your predator swarm with sabbat - blood brother and !tore spring to mind, but other may be bad too.

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