Card idea: Fiery Heart (pro+for grants blood to pay cards)

Just because a card isn't absolutely necessary isn't a reason to kill it. If it could be useful in some kinds of decks, then there is no reason not to consider it. If the kind of decks it would help are considered "terrible", then that's an even better reason to consider it.

I don't think that this card was proposed as a means to address the Gangrel's supposed lack of offense, either.

I see this card as addressing the considerable blood use of Protean-heavy decks that rely on aggro-poke or Protean stealth. The classic Protean aggro-poke cards (Claws of the Dead, Wolf Claws, Bone Spur) would be a lot better if they didn't cost a blood. It's an unreliable combat option and spending blood on aggro-poke just grinds you down while maybe or maybe not grinding down your opponent. Not spending blood on Earth Control and Animalism retainers would also be very helpful. This card makes the very expensive Protean cards such as Body of Sun, Body Flare, Shadow of the Wolf, and Mythic Form possible options.

Ankha wrote:

A mix between Masochism and Restoration. Since no blood is gain, it can't be abused with Villein.

Thoughts? Comments?

It makes me think of a mix between Fatuus Mastery and Cooler. I am not sure if it could not be abused by villein or minion tap. It creates a sort of fake blood to play cards as if you had blood. If I minion tap a vampire I usually leave enough blood to play some cards. For example, I might MT a 10-cap down to 4 blood usually with a plan to blood back up somehow. This card would make it easier to tap for 9 (or even ten) knowing I have enough fake blood to pay for stealth or combat.

Overall, I think the idea is interesting. I have at least two decks I can think of that I would try it in right now.

what if..?

Name: Fiery Heart
Cardtype: Action / Combat
Discipline: Protean & Fortitude
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[PRO][FOR] Only usable before range is determined. For the reminder of this round, this vampire may gain a blood from a blood bank for each blood he burned this round. No more than 4 blood may be gained this way each combat.

How about implementing this kind of mechanic? This way it can be used to play "burn blood to .." combat cards, such as Form of Mist and Lightning Reflexes.

AaronC wrote:

I see this card as addressing the considerable blood use of Protean-heavy decks that rely on aggro-poke or Protean stealth. The classic Protean aggro-poke cards (Claws of the Dead, Wolf Claws, Bone Spur) would be a lot better if they didn't cost a blood.

I believe this is more wishful thinking than anything else (for the original card), simply because the combat mechanic won't like having this moving part in addition to all the other existing moving part.

The modified card add an inner essence-like function, which may still be unused but is more likely to be.

AaronC wrote:

This card makes the very expensive Protean cards such as Body of Sun, Body Flare, Shadow of the Wolf, and Mythic Form possible options.

People play Sensory deprivation not because they can afford it blood-wise. They play it because nothing match the raw power of a sensory deprivation. All the card you're talking about are not worth their buck anyway. If they were, you would see them about as often as decapitate, which is actually played from time to time.

In short, protean combat card are not that good anyway, except for Flesh of Marble and Claw of the Dead.