Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)

hold the ranks

Requires a bishop or a primogen
+1 stealth action
untap this acting vampire and up to 2 younger, untitled vampires of the same sect (or the same clan maybe?)
if this action is blocked, the acting vampire may burn one blood to untap.

Reyda wrote:

hold the ranks

Requires a bishop or a primogen
+1 stealth action
untap this acting vampire and up to 2 younger, untitled vampires of the same sect (or the same clan maybe?)
if this action is blocked, the acting vampire may burn one blood to untap.

This is pretty cool actually, and gives decks like Nosferatu G3, as well as many G1 crypts, a significant boost. Considering how weak primogen and bishops really are, I wouldn't even call it broken or anything. Any abuse I can think for it is relatively young bishops or primogen for !Toreador, Toreador and Lasombra. They can pack a lot of bleed power as well as other tricks, and those untaps might help them a lot.

Miller Delmardigan or Rosa Martinez, or even Jessica, commanding a !Toreador horde with Foundation Exhibit, Art Scams and Palla Grande. Pretty nasty.

Krausedit\\ You might want to drop the untap from either succesful action, or a succesful block to give it a draw back. Now it's basically a free card.

Ankha wrote:

]I would restrict it to vampires of the same clan (for background)

Background can loosely justify that for primogen (who are on a clan basis, even if a lot of them have non-clanmate allies and servant). But for bishop, it's not justified at all.

For balance basis, it could be a good idea.

hold the ranks

Requires a bishop or a primogen
+1 stealth action
untap this acting vampire and up to 2 younger, untitled vampires of the same sect (or the same clan maybe?)
if this action is blocked, the acting vampire may burn one blood to untap.

For me this should be like this:

hold the ranks

Requires a bishop or a primogen
+1 stealth action
untap this acting vampire and other untitled vampire of the same clan. The second vampire cannot be older than the acting.

if this action is blocked, the acting vampire may burn one blood to untap after combat if any.