[Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
29 Jan 2015 09:45 #68929
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
The reason for the 'hand the gun to the Samedi' is to basically 'save the vampire actions'. The Samedi should be doing 'better' things than getting the gun. So, the grunt gets the gun, the Samedi goes killing.





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29 Jan 2015 17:45 #68937
by porphyrion
Replied by porphyrion on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
If a
is required to put the ghouly grunt into play, it still takes too many turns to get the gun to the Vamp. Ally should not have
requirement to be put into play, but should be limited to handing the gun to a
(/
?).
have
so disguised weapon was an option anyways, so the grunt should at least have comparable impact to 6-8xDisguised+.44's/Ivory Bow/... in a deck. Just my $0.01-
Also, a cooler-than-.44-gun would be appreciated by the
. They're just not very hot assassins at the moment.






Also, a cooler-than-.44-gun would be appreciated by the

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29 Jan 2015 20:31 #68942
by Juggernaut1981
ChrisN Format:
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally
Samedi
1 blood
Ghoul 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and equip it.
Just an 'upgraded format' as well. To simulate the idea that a Gunrunner could distribute things (laptops, cars, etc) but has easy access to guns. It also means that if you 'draw' a weapon, the Gunrunner can still run it for you.
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally
Samedi
1 blood
Ghoul 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and equip it. If Haitian Gunrunner successfully equips a non-location equipment you may move it to a ready Samedi
you control at the end of the action.




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
The format for cards doesn't yet put the strike options up with the 'life' stuff. Also, that 'life' is the imbued life not the "Usual Ally" life.OK, rolling feedback into one...
Haitian gunrunner
Ally
1
, Ghoul, 0 strength. 0 bleed. May strike for 1R.
Once per turn, this ally may either take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control, or a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and move it to your hand. Shuffle and discard afterwards.
ChrisN Format:
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally

Samedi

1 blood

Ghoul 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and equip it.
Just an 'upgraded format' as well. To simulate the idea that a Gunrunner could distribute things (laptops, cars, etc) but has easy access to guns. It also means that if you 'draw' a weapon, the Gunrunner can still run it for you.
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally

Samedi

1 blood

Ghoul 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control. Haitian Gunrunner may take a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and equip it. If Haitian Gunrunner successfully equips a non-location equipment you may move it to a ready Samedi






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29 Jan 2015 21:25 #68944
by chrisn101
Replied by chrisn101 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
Hi porphyrion,
Funny you should mention that. Logged on to post a poisoned crossbow idea
. Not quite as good as a .44-wiedling Vampire with superior Celerity, but... well, have a look 
Thanks Juggernaut1981. I like the enhanced version as well, though it feels like it should cost a bit more to be able to do all that. How about upping the cost and allowing it to either equip or for the controller to take into hand, thus being quite flexible?
Thanks again.
Funny you should mention that. Logged on to post a poisoned crossbow idea


Thanks Juggernaut1981. I like the enhanced version as well, though it feels like it should cost a bit more to be able to do all that. How about upping the cost and allowing it to either equip or for the controller to take into hand, thus being quite flexible?
Thanks again.
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29 Jan 2015 21:44 #68945
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
Well because of the last phrase, if the Haitian Gunrunner gets something that is not a location, he can just hand it off to a Samedi (only). So you can fish a weapon out of your library and then give it to the Samedi in one 'swift' motion.
Vast Wealth is a 'search and equip'. Arms Dealer is okay but not great (unless for some reason you want the weapon in the ashheap?!?!)
Also, if you draw a Camera Phone, you can offload it to the Samedi but you can't get the Camera Phone from your library. Same for things like a Sports Bike, Leather Jacket, etc. But you can't pass off locations.
Vast Wealth is a 'search and equip'. Arms Dealer is okay but not great (unless for some reason you want the weapon in the ashheap?!?!)
Also, if you draw a Camera Phone, you can offload it to the Samedi but you can't get the Camera Phone from your library. Same for things like a Sports Bike, Leather Jacket, etc. But you can't pass off locations.





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30 Jan 2015 12:47 #68956
by jamesatzephyr
Vast Wealth plays a fairly hefty price for that ability, though - and is still considered worth playing(*). It's a master card, meaning it competes against some frankly awesome cards. It goes on a specific minion - you can't get one minion to use it this turn and another the next. You don't get to pick the equipment, which is a bummer if you have 1 Ivory Bow and 6 .44 Magnums in the deck.
This is potentially quite a lot more flexible for the Samedi. And while there are downsides to be it being a fairly fragiel ally who does it himself, Cloak the Gathering and similar cards aren't too hard for the Samedi to use - it's not like this is for a clan with zero shareable stealth options.
(*) 4 TWDA hits in 2014 isn't startlingly amazing, but isn't entirely shabby.
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Vast Wealth is a 'search and equip'. Arms Dealer is okay but not great (unless for some reason you want the weapon in the ashheap?!?!)
Vast Wealth plays a fairly hefty price for that ability, though - and is still considered worth playing(*). It's a master card, meaning it competes against some frankly awesome cards. It goes on a specific minion - you can't get one minion to use it this turn and another the next. You don't get to pick the equipment, which is a bummer if you have 1 Ivory Bow and 6 .44 Magnums in the deck.
This is potentially quite a lot more flexible for the Samedi. And while there are downsides to be it being a fairly fragiel ally who does it himself, Cloak the Gathering and similar cards aren't too hard for the Samedi to use - it's not like this is for a clan with zero shareable stealth options.
(*) 4 TWDA hits in 2014 isn't startlingly amazing, but isn't entirely shabby.
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