Sabbat Cards

Most of those useless sabbat cards would actually be fairly decent if only they wouldn't cost a blood.

Lech wrote:

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Best disciplineless rush is called bum's rush. Rumble gives +1 hand size and can backfire, bums rush give maneuver for -1 hand size.
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I think, that best disciplinessless rush card for sabbat vampires is Rumble. Rush cards are often blocked, so Bum's Rush just gives you -1 hand size, whereas Rumble doesn't effect by anything. If you are rushing a minion who might put your vampire into torpor with Rumble, you are not playing well enough.

Also, losing pool is conditional, while -1 hand size is not.

What do you guys think about Creep Show? I find this card rather good and I always put one copy in any Sabbat-based block deck (Ahrimanes and Tzimisce). Its trifle-ness is what sells it for me.

As far as i am concerned, there are only 2 archetypes in existence - Perfectionist and Monster. B)

Also, i have been toying with dabbler recently for Tzimitze, it is decent with Mind of the wilds and Read the winds + VIC, but still not sold that it outperforms perfectionist and monster. Maybe it's trifleness is what makes it playable.

As for Creep Show - i don't like it. If i block My prey/predator, i want to hurt them, not to gain blood.

Cavalier and Sociopath are fairly decent archetypes also, as is capitalist in some decks.

Pendargon wrote:

As for Creep Show - i don't like it. If i block My prey/predator, i want to hurt them, not to gain blood.

This is how I see it: so, you've managed to stop whatever action your prey/predator/whatever was attempting, so that is half of the job done. Now, both Tzimisce and Ahrimanes don't have that much to say to S:CE (and to a lesser degree to dodge). So, I've already blocked them and I'm the reacting player - if they do not dodge/combat end, I'm going to hurt them. If they do, I get blood for my effort. In a combat-heavy environment, where everybody who can (meaning, every non-Tremere deck) will pack at least 6 S:CE, well, it adds up. And it's trifle.

Pendargon wrote:

As far as i am concerned, there are only 2 archetypes in existence - Perfectionist and Monster.

Lately I'm tempted between Perfectionist and Cavalier for my Ankara-wielding Tremeres. Currently, Perfectionist still looks better, since it works on every action, but still, it is nice to Magic of the Smith/Govern for free and then untap. Decisions, decisions...