New Player Reference Cards

Thank you for the replies & answer to my question...sorry to derail convo. I do like the cards for new players idea & think it would be fantastic to incorporate if cards are made again.

I've been playing since 1994 with Jyhad when it came out. We never played tourneys & only for fun with group of friends. Group has changed over years but for most part we all played same way (my fault mainly) with slight changes. We have always played that bleeds were not directed and could be blocked without eagles sight or other. We "assumed" that without the D, it wasn't Directed.

Our group has become gung-ho in V:TES again & are complying now with set rules. Taking adjusting to. Thank you all for the feed back.

In your example, are people aware of the symbol on other cards, and then they don't see the symbol and think the action can be blocked by anybody? If yes, we're experiencing the same problem: my example shows players misinterpreting the symbol, your example shows players misinterpreting the absence of the symbol. My thought is, if you get rid of the symbol altogether, all the misinterpretations cease to exist.

If in your example the players are completely new and have not seen the symbol yet and know nothing about it, then perhaps the symbol is more helpful than I realize. I still think it could be implemented better...

TwoRazorReign wrote:

my example shows players misinterpreting the symbol, your example shows players misinterpreting the absence of the symbol. My thought is, if you get rid of the symbol altogether, all the misinterpretations cease to exist.

And this is the main thing; either all cards / and effects that are directed actions should have the symbol or none at all. It's the inconsistency that is the problem.

The new card text seems much more consistent now; with the exception being actions that could target you (undirected) or others (directed). However there are still inconstancies.

Ankha, aside from the colossal pain in the ass a huge errata would be, are Bleed actions so hurting for space that a reminder "your Prey" couldn't be wedgied in there?

Ke. wrote:

And this is the main thing; either all cards / and effects that are directed actions should have the symbol or none at all. It's the inconsistency that is the problem.

The new card text seems much more consistent now; with the exception being actions that could target you (undirected) or others (directed). However there are still inconstancies.

We'll never be able to eliminate the problem caused by the old printings without the D-symbol, so people will forever have problems with inconsistency.