Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
16 Feb 2018 09:16 - 16 Feb 2018 10:13 #85332
by Bloodartist
What the?!
We have had some discussions over here whether its even possible to build a working deck out of Matasuntha. Apparently the answer exists. Incidentally she is one of my favorite vampires and a never-ending deck project for me (much to the dismay of local players)
Thanks a lot for the work, OT. Need to do some research now.
ps. I would've expected Andre the manipulator to be more common in the gangrel decks or most likely culprit for a random gangrel in the crypt. Doesn't seem to be the case.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
PS: half of gangrel wins are to the Matasuntha
What the?!

We have had some discussions over here whether its even possible to build a working deck out of Matasuntha. Apparently the answer exists. Incidentally she is one of my favorite vampires and a never-ending deck project for me (much to the dismay of local players)
Thanks a lot for the work, OT. Need to do some research now.
ps. I would've expected Andre the manipulator to be more common in the gangrel decks or most likely culprit for a random gangrel in the crypt. Doesn't seem to be the case.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
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19 Feb 2018 13:40 #85351
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
Thanks for the data elotar!
Except for the Converts and Unmasking, this kind of makes a bigcap Tremere voty toolbox. Just add some Mirror Walks
83 decks
55 got at least one copy of Pentex S...
46 at least one copy of Villein
38 - Vessel
37 - Dreams of the S...
36 - Deflection
23 - Govern the U...
22 - Conditioning
23 - Telepathic Mis...
20 - monastery of S...
20 - Eyes of Argus
19 - Anarch Convert (21 in TWDA so there are +/-10% difference?)
17 - ashur t...
17 - wash
16 - Enkil Cog
15 - Parity S...
15 - Perfectionist
14 - Bowl of C...
13 - scourge of the enochians
11 - Unmasking
11 - Ivory Bow
10 - Blood Doll
8 - Magic of the S...
Except for the Converts and Unmasking, this kind of makes a bigcap Tremere voty toolbox. Just add some Mirror Walks

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02 Mar 2018 10:03 #85508
by elotar
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Replied by elotar on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
Found something like it I made at 2012 (obviously do not remember how) for the 10 year period. Lets compare:
2002-2012 2017
218 (15,0%) Malkavian 5.0 --
217 (14,9%) Ventrue 5.0 --
152 (10,5%) Toreador 8.3 --
143 (10,5%) Tremere 31.7 +++
127 (9,3%) Gangrel 16.7 +
99 (7,3%) Nosferatu 0
90 (6,2%) Brujah 10.0 +
90 (6,2%) Giovanni 6.7
85 (5,8%) Lasombra 6.7 +
79 (5,4%) Tzimisce 1.7 --
62 (4,3%) Followers of Set 6.7 +
50 (3,4%) Assamite 1.7 --
41 (2,8%) Ravnos 0
Suddenly present meta looks less healthy because of said tremere toolbox, clearly dominating.
2002-2012 2017
218 (15,0%) Malkavian 5.0 --
217 (14,9%) Ventrue 5.0 --
152 (10,5%) Toreador 8.3 --
143 (10,5%) Tremere 31.7 +++
127 (9,3%) Gangrel 16.7 +
99 (7,3%) Nosferatu 0
90 (6,2%) Brujah 10.0 +
90 (6,2%) Giovanni 6.7
85 (5,8%) Lasombra 6.7 +
79 (5,4%) Tzimisce 1.7 --
62 (4,3%) Followers of Set 6.7 +
50 (3,4%) Assamite 1.7 --
41 (2,8%) Ravnos 0
Suddenly present meta looks less healthy because of said tremere toolbox, clearly dominating.





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16 Jul 2018 10:42 #88854
by skimflux
Replied by skimflux on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
I've been doing some analysis on the TWDA myself - these are not complete (I want to include the full TWDA but the parsing is trickier because the format was not standardized until recently), but I've found a few differences from this list that deserve mentioning. On my list the top most used cards for 2017 are:
Pentex(TM) Subversion 60
On the Qui Vive 50
Villein 48
Giant's Blood 47
Dreams of the Sphinx 41
Vessel 39
Deflection 38
Direct Intervention 34
Wider View 29
Conditioning 26
Govern the Unaligned 25
Telepathic Misdirection 24
Information Highway 24
Parthenon, The 23
Carlton Van Wyk 22
Eyes of Argus 22
Delaying Tactics 22
Powerbase: Montreal 22
Heart of Nizchetus 20
Monastery of Shadows 20
Archon Investigation 20
Anarch Convert 20
Wash 19
Ashur Tablets 19
My Enemy's Enemy 19
Fame 19
Quite a few of these were missing from Elotar's list - most notably On The Qui Vive and Direct Intervention. Enkil Cog doesn't actually make it into the Top25, neither do any Political Actions.
I'm also doing my analysis for the full TWDA - it's quite interesting to see how the meta has evolved over the years - once I have the full results I'll post them in a new thread.
Pentex(TM) Subversion 60
On the Qui Vive 50
Villein 48
Giant's Blood 47
Dreams of the Sphinx 41
Vessel 39
Deflection 38
Direct Intervention 34
Wider View 29
Conditioning 26
Govern the Unaligned 25
Telepathic Misdirection 24
Information Highway 24
Parthenon, The 23
Carlton Van Wyk 22
Eyes of Argus 22
Delaying Tactics 22
Powerbase: Montreal 22
Heart of Nizchetus 20
Monastery of Shadows 20
Archon Investigation 20
Anarch Convert 20
Wash 19
Ashur Tablets 19
My Enemy's Enemy 19
Fame 19
Quite a few of these were missing from Elotar's list - most notably On The Qui Vive and Direct Intervention. Enkil Cog doesn't actually make it into the Top25, neither do any Political Actions.
I'm also doing my analysis for the full TWDA - it's quite interesting to see how the meta has evolved over the years - once I have the full results I'll post them in a new thread.
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16 Jul 2018 10:50 #88855
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
Of the cards requiring discipline only Dominate and Auspex are represented. with obviously, Dominate dominating the list.
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16 Jul 2018 10:51 #88856
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Some useless statistics for 2017 TWD
Huge thanks for the analysis!
Wouldn't it be great to get similar lists for EVERY year?
Also, wouldn't it be great if TWDA was a database so everyone could crunch data very easily? (Yeah, it is a pipedream...)
Wouldn't it be great to get similar lists for EVERY year?
Also, wouldn't it be great if TWDA was a database so everyone could crunch data very easily? (Yeah, it is a pipedream...)
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