question-circle Altered illustrations in tournaments?

06 Jun 2022 05:58 #105405 by Malachy
I can back up smeeag's statement. It's more likely a thermal power station than a nuclear power plant. Worry not, Nosferatu is known to be careful and responsible anyway ;)

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07 Jun 2022 15:46 #105419 by Ashur
No, please don´t open up this can of worms. Just use the normal cards please (or proxies for those when allowed).

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07 Jun 2022 18:10 #105420 by Palamedes


Yes, as long as:
  • the card can't be differentiate while face down or in the deck (due to extra thickness* of different shape)
  • the artwork is still recognizable (no heavy modification)
  • it doesn't contain anything offensive

Signed cards for instance should be ok.
*Extra thickness should not apply to PDF cards.

It's of course up to the head judge to decide whether the card is acceptable or not.


Thanks for your reply. I was hoping that heavy modifications would be possible, but I understand that the recognizable part should remain.


I know the question is broader, but in this particular case you can feel safe: wet cooling towers are used in many different industrial applications not limited to nuclear power plants, it's more of a media cliche.


Heh, I didn't know that, thanks for the info, but it doesn't change much in this case.


No, please don´t open up this can of worms. Just use the normal cards please (or proxies for those when allowed).


For casual play, I'll stick to modified proxies for now, and probably skip my deck with Creeping Sabotage for tournaments.

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10 Jun 2022 11:45 - 10 Jun 2022 11:46 #105433 by Bloodartist

No, please don´t open up this can of worms. Just use the normal cards please (or proxies for those when allowed).


You could make a ruling about this, the same way Magic has done.

Key part is that the card should always be recognizable for what it is. Thus minimum the name should remain unchanged, and probably enough of the art to recognize it plus artists name.

If in a tournament somebody complains about the altered art, then the decision whether or not the card is legal should be the judges decision, case by case basis.

The text box is less important, if for no other reason that the misprinted cards from.. was it anthology?.. that have no cardtext are legal to play already.

Bottom line should always be that the card is recognizable if you take it in your hand.

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



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10 Jun 2022 15:21 #105434 by Ashur
It is rather handy to be able to read the actual card too. I think the bottom line is: Try to make the game experience as pleasant for everyone as possible. That means: Bring readable cards and cards that can be recognized in play. I don´t understand what the point with any other attitude is.

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