Designers' Diary entry for June
12 Jun 2013 19:36 #49755
by Damnans
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Designers' Diary entry for June was created by Damnans
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The Week of Nightmares is underway in Columbus, Ohio, and the North American Championship is happening this weekend at Origins. Mike Nudd and I will be in town for Origins, and as we did last year, we'll have a meeting with the playtesters in attendance to go over playtest of the next set after Danse Macabre. We got a lot of great feedback doing this last year, and we look forward to doing it again! I've also spoken with the organizers of the European Championships in Stockholm, and we'd like to do a preview/question & answer panel with the Design Team.
As for the next set, I figured I'd update you on its progress. It is an as-yet-unnamed Independent-clan themed set, slated to be 36 cards in size. The clans will be the classic Independent clans: Assamites, Followers of Set, Giovanni, and Ravnos. We have more than 70 cards designed already and more are being designed. We'll be paring the set down to 44 cards or so for playtest. Depending on how cards fare in playtest, cuts will be made and each clan will end up with 5-6 vampires and 3-4 library cards.
The main limiting factor on the size of the set is artwork. We are thrilled to report that the great majority of artists from Danse Macabre will be returning for the next set. We're also looking for more artists, so if you'd like to contribute or if you know an artist who would like to help, please send contact info and portfolios to Gines Quinonero at .
Given that it's an Independent-themed set, some of you may be wondering whether we'll be including Gangrel. At the present time we're not. Again, we're limited by how much artwork we can get, so we're going to focus on the "classic four" for now. However, if print-on-demand goes online and if we can get the resources we need from OneBookshelf.com, we'll consider expanding the scope of the set to include Gangrel. Under those circumstances, we'd also be likely to increase the amount of crypt and library cards each clan would get.
The first wave of art descriptions to be sent to the Art Director is due at the end of the month, and we'll be starting playtest then, as well. As Johannes mentioned in the forums, the print-on-demand project continues to progress with no major roadblocks. However, without final validation from all parties involved, there are no announcements to be made at the present time.
That's the news for now! See you at Origins
- Ben Peal, V:EKN Design Team Lead
The Week of Nightmares is underway in Columbus, Ohio, and the North American Championship is happening this weekend at Origins. Mike Nudd and I will be in town for Origins, and as we did last year, we'll have a meeting with the playtesters in attendance to go over playtest of the next set after Danse Macabre. We got a lot of great feedback doing this last year, and we look forward to doing it again! I've also spoken with the organizers of the European Championships in Stockholm, and we'd like to do a preview/question & answer panel with the Design Team.
As for the next set, I figured I'd update you on its progress. It is an as-yet-unnamed Independent-clan themed set, slated to be 36 cards in size. The clans will be the classic Independent clans: Assamites, Followers of Set, Giovanni, and Ravnos. We have more than 70 cards designed already and more are being designed. We'll be paring the set down to 44 cards or so for playtest. Depending on how cards fare in playtest, cuts will be made and each clan will end up with 5-6 vampires and 3-4 library cards.
The main limiting factor on the size of the set is artwork. We are thrilled to report that the great majority of artists from Danse Macabre will be returning for the next set. We're also looking for more artists, so if you'd like to contribute or if you know an artist who would like to help, please send contact info and portfolios to Gines Quinonero at .
Given that it's an Independent-themed set, some of you may be wondering whether we'll be including Gangrel. At the present time we're not. Again, we're limited by how much artwork we can get, so we're going to focus on the "classic four" for now. However, if print-on-demand goes online and if we can get the resources we need from OneBookshelf.com, we'll consider expanding the scope of the set to include Gangrel. Under those circumstances, we'd also be likely to increase the amount of crypt and library cards each clan would get.
The first wave of art descriptions to be sent to the Art Director is due at the end of the month, and we'll be starting playtest then, as well. As Johannes mentioned in the forums, the print-on-demand project continues to progress with no major roadblocks. However, without final validation from all parties involved, there are no announcements to be made at the present time.
That's the news for now! See you at Origins
- Ben Peal, V:EKN Design Team Lead











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12 Jun 2013 20:23 #49757
by ReverendRevolver
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Id love to see the gangrel get some love in this set. I understand focusing on the technically indy clans, but gangrel in vtes have been severely boned by leaving the cam. Anarchs was the last consistantly good set for gangrel. Kot had some coolness, but not as much.
Regardless, happy to hear about next set.
Regardless, happy to hear about next set.
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12 Jun 2013 20:31 #49758
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13 Jun 2013 06:08 #49759
by Lönkka
There unfortunately is a difference of getting non-VTES artists interested for pro-bono work and work where you get at least some kind of financial compensation...
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Since the print on demand is moving forward am I correct in assuming that the artists will be compensated moneytarily?The main limiting factor on the size of the set is artwork. We are thrilled to report that the great majority of artists from Danse Macabre will be returning for the next set. We're also looking for more artists, so if you'd like to contribute or if you know an artist who would like to help, please send contact info and portfolios to Gines Quinonero at .
There unfortunately is a difference of getting non-VTES artists interested for pro-bono work and work where you get at least some kind of financial compensation...
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13 Jun 2013 17:10 #49772
by BenPeal
Until licenses are signed, we're relying heavily on volunteer artwork. Once licenses are signed, artwork becomes much less of a limiting factor on set design and size. Johannes has also publicly stated that one licenses are signed and POD goes online, the artists will receive financial compensation, the details of which to be worked out by OneBookshelf. It is to my understanding that new artist's agreements are currently being drafted accordingly.
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Since the print on demand is moving forward am I correct in assuming that the artists will be compensated moneytarily?
There unfortunately is a difference of getting non-VTES artists interested for pro-bono work and work where you get at least some kind of financial compensation...
Until licenses are signed, we're relying heavily on volunteer artwork. Once licenses are signed, artwork becomes much less of a limiting factor on set design and size. Johannes has also publicly stated that one licenses are signed and POD goes online, the artists will receive financial compensation, the details of which to be worked out by OneBookshelf. It is to my understanding that new artist's agreements are currently being drafted accordingly.
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13 Jun 2013 18:59 #49773
by Lönkka
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So it wouldn't be misleading to say to artists that, say, I'd be trying to entic... recruit that they would be receiving at least some kind of compensation for their efforts. Probably not something to make them filthy rich or anything but at least some tiny amounts of moolah, right?
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