file The Gangrel Preconstructed Deck

22 Sep 2021 12:23 - 23 Sep 2021 17:39 #103262 by ReverendRevolver
I have waited a few days, and its (mostly) posted now:

www.blackchantry.com/products/vampire-the-eternal-struggle-fifth-edition/fifth-edition-gangrel/
Crypt (12 cards)
1 Crow
1 Dario Ziggler
1 Hanna Nokelainen
1 Indira
1 Joaquín de Cádiz
1 Kamile Paukstys
2 Martina Srnankova
2 Massimiliano
1 Nathan Turner
1 Ruslan Fedorenko
Library (77 cards)
1 Anarch Railroad
1 Backways
4 Blood Doll
1 Ecoterrorists
1 Fame
1 Haven Uncovered
1 Rack, The
1 Smiling Jack, The Anarch
1 Zoo Hunting Ground
2 Constant Revolution
6 Deep Song
1 Rewilding
4 Thing
1 Double Deuce
2 Murder of Crows
2 Raven Spy
4 Earth Control
2 Form of the Bat
2 Bear’s Skin
6 Carrion Crows
2 Claws of the Dead
2 Form of the Wolf
4 Hidden Strength
4 Cats’ Guidance
6 Deep Ecology
6 Eyes of the Wild
5 On the Qui Vive
4 Protection Racket

So, Deep Ecology was this months spoiler card, an anarch 3way reaction.

We have these other new library cards as well, but I want to discuss some things.
We have a couple crypt cards listed not shown. Dario Ziggler and Hanna.
we also have a library card not shown, Double Duece.
I'm curious. 
I'll throw other observations in a separate post.Ruslan Fedorenko. Art by Noora Hirvonen.
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Form of the Bat. Art by Ginés Quiñonero.
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Form of the Wolf. Art by Marta Ruiz AngueraAnguera
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22 Sep 2021 12:44 #103264 by Hobbesgoblin

Double Deuce was one of the Kickstarter promos before.
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22 Sep 2021 12:50 #103266 by ReverendRevolver
So, 

We have reprints,  as we should. But a few seem out of place,  and something important missing.  Earth control I'm not feeling as ×4. Maybe 2 freak drives. Or even out and out replace them with 4, but lack of superior all around make that not as huge. But the lack of dog pack and having 2 Raven spies is less than awesome.  Bigger problem is no pack alpha,  as it seems appropriate for the theme they're chasing.  
I REALLY like much of the new cards, but using Barons and these new blocking support cards seems viable the same way No Secrets support Akunanse does. Including its weakness to S:CE. I have some dog pack like 2 is all I've ever ran, because pool cost plus Gangrel.  But the omission seems odd. I'm hoping that Gangrel get legacy reprints soon, and with them nice things like new Dog Pack, properly printed Revel, maybe cool (violent) art on Ritual Challenge.  

As a standalone deck, it's cool. Not as solid as it could be, but potentially viable if your single Jack doesn't get taken out and you keep pressure with some bleeds. I'd go so far as to say the Promo baron and some cards from the Brujah deck would take this a little higher, with a vote defense buffer, club illusion, and the baron bounce.

What's everyone else think?

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22 Sep 2021 13:17 #103269 by Hobbesgoblin
just saw deep ecology is also missing on the preview page, here is the pciture from the newsletter:


My main takeaay is, that his deck seems a little bit unfocsused between rush and block. To relaiably sink vampires, there is not that much combat actually and S:CE is also a problem. The block Module looks solid, to protect Jack and the Revolution, but why no army of rats?
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23 Sep 2021 03:50 - 23 Sep 2021 03:53 #103279 by Bloodartist

My main takeaay is, that his deck seems a little bit unfocsused between rush and block. To relaiably sink vampires, there is not that much combat actually and S:CE is also a problem. The block Module looks solid, to protect Jack and the Revolution, but why no army of rats?


"Unfocused" and "Versatile" are two sides of the same coin. I think this deck will function decently as a precon. 

I wasn't as excited about this deck, because unlike some of the other ones this does not introduce new archetypes, and its vampires are decent but rather uninspiring. The baron is nice, but obviously the deck cannot function as a voting deck with just one voter..

Instead the deck enforces existing archetypes, particularly anarch wall-types, with cards like deep ecology and eyes of the wild. This is good, but not  spectacular. :)

It does feature cardboard versions of good pdf cards like Crow and Thing, which I applaud. These are cards I wanted to have. Especially Things are really important.. 

The new ally Double Deuce is interesting... An ally with stealth is always a thing, because it gets around unmasking. I wish imbued had been something like this instead of how they turned out.. 
 

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23 Sep 2021 09:55 #103286 by Lönkka
ReverendRevolver, you might want to edit the original post a bit as in the deck contents some of the lines contain 2 or even 3 card ATM.

Not a huge problem but makes way easier a read...

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