Vampire: Elder Kindred Network Newsletter June 2024
15 Jul 2024 21:24 #112039
by emime
Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels
Replied by emime on topic Vampire: Elder Kindred Network Newsletter June 2024
Either I have always misplayed (and misjudged!) the card, or the ruling on Eagle’s Sight is (at a minimum) written in a very ambiguous way.
As far as I understand, while it is true that Deflection is played after block attempts, and so I may not be able to try to block the bleed against the original Methuselah, Deflection also reopens the block attempts, so I am able to play Eagle’s Sight to block the bleed attempt against the new Methuselah (respecting the impulse order). Right?
If so, the sentence “You are NOT allowed to play Eagle´s Sight (or similar effects) to block a bleed action AFTER a bleed has been redirected” is very very misleading… and if not, I don’t know how anything works anymore
Not a ruling in itself, but a reminder about something players and judges very often get into problems with: You are NOT allowed to play Eagle´s Sight (or similar effects) to block a bleed action AFTER a bleed has been redirected (with Deflection or similar effect). This is because playing Deflection implies that the defending player declines to block.
As far as I understand, while it is true that Deflection is played after block attempts, and so I may not be able to try to block the bleed against the original Methuselah, Deflection also reopens the block attempts, so I am able to play Eagle’s Sight to block the bleed attempt against the new Methuselah (respecting the impulse order). Right?
If so, the sentence “You are NOT allowed to play Eagle´s Sight (or similar effects) to block a bleed action AFTER a bleed has been redirected” is very very misleading… and if not, I don’t know how anything works anymore
Emiliano "Sans Terre" - Wandering Player - Prince of Brussels
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15 Jul 2024 21:32 #112040
by Ankha
Yes, sorry, the article will be reworked to remove any ambiguity.
Replied by Ankha on topic Vampire: Elder Kindred Network Newsletter June 2024
Either I have always misplayed (and misjudged!) the card, or the ruling on Eagle’s Sight is (at a minimum) written in a very ambiguous way.
Not a ruling in itself, but a reminder about something players and judges very often get into problems with: You are NOT allowed to play Eagle´s Sight (or similar effects) to block a bleed action AFTER a bleed has been redirected (with Deflection or similar effect). This is because playing Deflection implies that the defending player declines to block.
As far as I understand, while it is true that Deflection is played after block attempts, and so I may not be able to try to block the bleed against the original Methuselah, Deflection also reopens the block attempts, so I am able to play Eagle’s Sight to block the bleed attempt against the new Methuselah (respecting the impulse order). Right?
If so, the sentence “You are NOT allowed to play Eagle´s Sight (or similar effects) to block a bleed action AFTER a bleed has been redirected” is very very misleading… and if not, I don’t know how anything works anymore
Yes, sorry, the article will be reworked to remove any ambiguity.
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