two questions
20 Oct 2011 07:56 #12452
by cofius
two questions was created by cofius
wake with evening freshness vs form of mist: minion untaped with wef and blocked another, combat occured and form of mist was played, can minion that waked try to block same action again?
and second question: when vampire give stealth to anther by a veil the legions, can he burn one blood to give himself stealth? thank you...
and second question: when vampire give stealth to anther by a veil the legions, can he burn one blood to give himself stealth? thank you...
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20 Oct 2011 08:07 #12454
by Lech
Yes, he can (also, minion didn't untapped, he merely can block as untaped and play reaction cards)
Yes, if he act next.

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Re: two questions
wake with evening freshness vs form of mist: minion untaped with wef and blocked another, combat occured and form of mist was played, can minion that waked try to block same action again?
Yes, he can (also, minion didn't untapped, he merely can block as untaped and play reaction cards)
and second question: when vampire give stealth to anther by a veil the legions, can he burn one blood to give himself stealth? thank you...
Yes, if he act next.






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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20 Oct 2011 08:08 #12455
by Ankha
Please insert card texts.
Name: Wake with Evening's Freshness
Cardtype: Reaction
Do not replace until your next untap phase.
Only usable by a tapped vampire. This reacting vampire can play reaction cards and attempt to block as though untapped until the current action is concluded.
Name: Form of Mist
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Strike: dodge.
[PRO] Strike: combat ends. If this vampire is acting -{and needs stealth when this strike resolves}-, he or she may burn 1 blood after combat ends to continue the action at +1 stealth as if unblocked. A vampire may play only one Form of Mist at superior each action.
Name: Veil the Legions
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion you control. The acting minion gets +1 stealth. Only one Veil the Legions may be played each action.
[OBF] As above, and this vampire may burn X additional blood to give +1 stealth to the next X actions your minions perform this turn. Only one Veil the Legions can be played at superior each turn.
1/ Yes, since the action is not "concluded" yet, wake is still working.
2/ Burning blood will not grant vampires some stealth, but grant the next actions some stealth. So if the vampire playing Veil the Legions takes an action afterwards while Veil is still effective, his action will get the stealth.
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: two questions
wake with evening freshness vs form of mist: minion untaped with wef and blocked another, combat occured and form of mist was played, can minion that waked try to block same action again?
and second question: when vampire give stealth to anther by a veil the legions, can he burn one blood to give himself stealth? thank you...
Please insert card texts.
Name: Wake with Evening's Freshness
Cardtype: Reaction
Do not replace until your next untap phase.
Only usable by a tapped vampire. This reacting vampire can play reaction cards and attempt to block as though untapped until the current action is concluded.
Name: Form of Mist
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Protean
[pro] Strike: dodge.
[PRO] Strike: combat ends. If this vampire is acting -{and needs stealth when this strike resolves}-, he or she may burn 1 blood after combat ends to continue the action at +1 stealth as if unblocked. A vampire may play only one Form of Mist at superior each action.
Name: Veil the Legions
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion you control. The acting minion gets +1 stealth. Only one Veil the Legions may be played each action.
[OBF] As above, and this vampire may burn X additional blood to give +1 stealth to the next X actions your minions perform this turn. Only one Veil the Legions can be played at superior each turn.
1/ Yes, since the action is not "concluded" yet, wake is still working.
2/ Burning blood will not grant vampires some stealth, but grant the next actions some stealth. So if the vampire playing Veil the Legions takes an action afterwards while Veil is still effective, his action will get the stealth.
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20 Oct 2011 09:06 #12467
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: two questions
Answers from Ankha and Lech are correct.
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21 Oct 2011 05:01 #12537
by Malachy
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Replied by Malachy on topic Re: two questions
About Form of Mist... it says "he or she may burn 1 blood after combat ends to continue the action..." and i know that Psyche! can negate this effect, but it says "after combat ends" and
Psyche!
says "at the end of combat"... My point is the blocking minion's controller should play Psyche! before the acting should decide whether to burn one blood to continue! Am I not correct?
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21 Oct 2011 05:16 #12539
by jamesatzephyr
Correct - you burn the blood after the Psyche! would be played.
[LSJ 20070313]
However, in practice, players will often play the Form of Mist and indicate they're burning the blood immediately. The blood isn't burned until after Psyche! is played, so you'd take the blood back / rewind declarations, as appropriate. (Discussed in the link above.)
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: two questions
My point is the blocking minion's controller should play Psyche! before the acting should decide whether to burn one blood to continue! Am I not correct?
Correct - you burn the blood after the Psyche! would be played.
[LSJ 20070313]
However, in practice, players will often play the Form of Mist and indicate they're burning the blood immediately. The blood isn't burned until after Psyche! is played, so you'd take the blood back / rewind declarations, as appropriate. (Discussed in the link above.)
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