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07 Nov 2011 06:18 #13501 by Malachy
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Heys!

Here's the theory: Via Agent of Power my gangrel gets an inferior level of Spiritus... That's a trifle, so thereafter comes a Feral Spirit . She becomes Ahrimane and gets superior Spiritus. Is sup SPI maintained after the Agent is burned? I think Feral Spirit should provide the given level permanently dispite the fact that an inferior level "has been burned" since because the wording -as far as I can tell- refers to present circumstances. Once gained cannot be "gained again differently later due to this or that".
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07 Nov 2011 06:36 - 07 Nov 2011 06:37 #13504 by Ankha
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Heys!

Here's the theory: Via Agent of Power my gangrel gets an inferior level of Spiritus... That's a trifle, so thereafter comes a Feral Spirit . She becomes Ahrimane and gets superior Spiritus. Is sup SPI maintained after the Agent is burned? I think Feral Spirit should provide the given level permanently dispite the fact that an inferior level "has been burned" since because the wording -as far as I can tell- refers to present circumstances. Once gained cannot be "gained again differently later due to this or that".

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Name: Feral Spirit
Cardtype: Master
Master.
Put this card on a Gangrel or Gangrel antitribu you control. This vampire is now Ahrimane (and Sabbat). This vampire gains one level of Spiritus [spi]. This vampire is now sterile.

Feral Spirit provides 1 level of Spiritus, not superior Spiritus. While the Agent of Power is on him, he has 2 levels of Spiritus (meaning superior Spiritus).
When the Agent of Power burns, the vampire is left with 1 level of Spiritus, meaning inferior Spiritus.
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07 Nov 2011 07:05 #13512 by Izaak
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Which is, I might add, most unfortunate.

If it worked like Malachy suggested, that would go a long way towards the Gangrel/Ahrimanes synergy an actual synergy :)

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07 Nov 2011 16:16 #13576 by Pascal Bertrand
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Ankha's response is correct: [LSJ 20011227] (parallel between Vial of Garou Blood and Agent of Power - when the effect ends, the level of discipline isn't granted anymore; and, as Ankha said, Feral Spirit doesn't give superior, but just 1 level).
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07 Nov 2011 18:36 #13596 by Malachy
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I see, thanks gents! Izaak, believe me I intended to reform gangrel/!gangrel/ahrimane synergy (they are the only clans I play with), but I won't give up... there is always something new under the Sun :)
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