file Power of All and tapping the acting minion

11 Nov 2011 03:40 #14009 by Ira
If a minion plays an action card which is cancelled with Power of All, is the acting minion tapped or not? I know that the cost of the action is paid, but I'm not sure if the minion stays tapped or not.

DI has specific reminder text clarifying that the minion untaps.

Thanks,
Ira


Power of All
Reaction
2 blood
Requires a ready anarch.
Tap this anarch and one other untapped ready anarch you control to cancel a library card as it is played. Usable even if there is no action. Not usable during your own turn.

Direct Intervention
Master: out-of-turn.
Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't tap. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.)

Ira

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2011 04:07 #14010 by Smaul
An action is not played and a vampire is not tapped until the as played window doesn´t resolve. For this matter, any DI like card acts the same way. The acting minion doesn´t get to be tapped and the cost isn´t paid eather.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2011 12:00 #14019 by miketheknife
I have another question regarding this card:

Anarch A plays PoA, anarch B is chosen to tap.
Q: does anarch A need to tap? or can play PoA using on the qui vive/wake/forced awakening/Eye of argus?

thx!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2011 12:08 #14020 by Joscha

Anarch A plays PoA, anarch B is chosen to tap.
Q: does anarch A need to tap?

IANPB but yes, tap to do something means you have to tap.

Other thing is a card like Telepathic Misdirection which says "tap this reacting vampire". This is no "tap to do something" but more a "this vampire becomes tapped if he isn't already".

Baron of Frankfurt

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2011 12:12 #14021 by jamesatzephyr

An action is not played and a vampire is not tapped until the as played window doesn´t resolve.


The action has already been played, it's just then cancelled. That doesn't mean it wasn't played. [LSJ 20001018]

DI does the same thing in both cases - cancels the card (without erasing
the fact that the card was played).


Because the action card was cancelled, the vampire doesn't attempt the action, so the vampire doesn't tap. [LSJ 20081213]

as the vampire hasn't yet attempted an action (the
canceled action card's action isn't attempted), you can still attempt an action

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
11 Nov 2011 12:19 #14023 by jamesatzephyr

Anarch A plays PoA, anarch B is chosen to tap.
Q: does anarch A need to tap?

IANPB but yes, tap to do something means you have to tap.


Correct. LSJ confirms it for similarly-worded reaction cards: [LSJ 20031117]

Halcyan 2 wrote:
>>I believe that the superior cannot be used with Forced Awakening
>>or other similar effects that allow to act as if untapped because
>>you cannot tap when you are already tapped. Just want to be
>>certain about it.

> Correct. You need to actually go from an untapped state to a tapped state to
> use the superior effect of the card. Similarly, Forced Awakening does not work
> with The Mole (Dominate) or Mariel's special.

Correct. Card text: "tap to"


Relevant card text:

The Mole (dom): Only usable when you are being bled by a younger vampire. Tap this vampire to cause the action to fail.

Babble (DEM): Tap this vampire to untap another ready minion.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
Moderators: AnkhaKraus
Time to create page: 0.137 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum