Are these decks tournament legal?

Forhead wrote:

My question is simple, is it legal to bring this decks to a tournament? Mostly from a PTW/sportmanship point of view.

If a player is actively trying to screw around with the PTW rules - turning up with a deck that for all practical purposes can never win, just so they can say "Well, I can lose in any fashion I choose, suckers" and proceeds to mess with the table - then you can award the player a Game Loss or Disqualification. DQ is more likely in a tournament where players use the same deck for every round, Game Loss where they can change decks between rounds. (Although if the player has three different decks, all with the same 'screw the tournament HAHAHA' composition, use your discretion.)

[LSJ 20070418]

LSJ wrote:

James Coupe wrote:
> I can't find the post where LSJ points out that a player seriously
> attempting to subvert/undermine/something a tournament by turning up
> with the stupidest deck ever, purely so he can [screw] with play-to-win
> requirements, could be excluded. If anyone remembers the post I mean...

I have some vague recollection of such a post, but cannot find it myself, either.

Anyway, such a player (one actively attempting to disrupt the tournament) would
be in violation of the sportsmanship rule, and would be subject to Game Loss. In
formats where switching decks between rounds is not allowed, it would be
reasonable to upgrade the penalty to Disqualification (rather than continue to
seat him and then GL him at the beginning of each round).

A player who is trying earnestly to win but simply turns up with bad decks probably shouldn't be penalised. (For example, they might simply have very few cards, or have a wild misunderstanding of a particular card.) Similarly, a player who wants to play a tougher deck to show people that Toreador with Dementation is a viable deck type.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

.... a player who wants to play a tougher deck to show people that Toreador with Dementation is a viable deck type.

It can win!

I was thinking along the same lines, but even with a deck like tore/dem there would be some offensive threat. The settite deck from the OP is different and it is something I would say is screwing with the tournament. The deck could win theoretically, but we know it never would.

TorranceCircle wrote:

I was thinking along the same lines, but even with a deck like tore/dem there would be some offensive threat. The settite deck from the OP is different and it is something I would say is screwing with the tournament. The deck could win theoretically, but we know it never would.

How could the settite deck win?

Forhead wrote:

TorranceCircle wrote:

I was thinking along the same lines, but even with a deck like tore/dem there would be some offensive threat. The settite deck from the OP is different and it is something I would say is screwing with the tournament. The deck could win theoretically, but we know it never would.

How could the settite deck win?

bleeding with temptated vampires?

It has a chance... a VERY small one, but has it...

sorry, my bad... thay actually can't win...

i dunno, i think there is a corner case in the rules...

miketheknife wrote:

Forhead wrote:

TorranceCircle wrote:

I was thinking along the same lines, but even with a deck like tore/dem there would be some offensive threat. The settite deck from the OP is different and it is something I would say is screwing with the tournament. The deck could win theoretically, but we know it never would.

How could the settite deck win?

bleeding with temptated vampires?

It has a chance... a VERY small one, but has it...

To temptate is a directed action, so he can´t temp another vampire that is not his own.

sorry, my bad... thay actually can't win...

i dunno, i think there is a corner case in the rules...

Sure they can. The deck's strategy may be to wait until someone else influences up Nefertiti.