Nocturn - how does it work ?
23 Nov 2011 12:34 - 23 Nov 2011 12:35 #15627
by Pascal Bertrand
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The superior Nocturn recruit allows you to perform this action again.
If you recruited the Nocturn the normal way (play it from hand), you can do another Nocturn action.
If you recruited it via The Summoning, then you can perform another The Summoning action again this turn.
You can always perform the following:
Recruit ally A (for instance, Carlton Van Wyk), untap (Freak Drive), recruit ally B (for instance, Mylan Horseed).
The NRA limits you to one inferior Nocturn action per turn.
If you recruited the Nocturn the normal way (play it from hand), you can do another Nocturn action.
If you recruited it via The Summoning, then you can perform another The Summoning action again this turn.
You can always perform the following:
Recruit ally A (for instance, Carlton Van Wyk), untap (Freak Drive), recruit ally B (for instance, Mylan Horseed).
The NRA limits you to one inferior Nocturn action per turn.
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23 Nov 2011 12:42 #15628
by Ohlmann
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Thank for the clarification in the NRA rule.
Another last two questions : if with superior Obtenetration a vampire do a compel the spirit or a summon history on a nocturn, can he do an additional compel the spirit / summon history the same turn if he untap ?
Also, if a vampire make a "the summoning" for a nocturn (with obtenetration superior), the next *the summoning* cost 1 more blood, but the next *nocturn* is at the same price, am I right ? (assuming the same vampire, of course)
Another last two questions : if with superior Obtenetration a vampire do a compel the spirit or a summon history on a nocturn, can he do an additional compel the spirit / summon history the same turn if he untap ?
Also, if a vampire make a "the summoning" for a nocturn (with obtenetration superior), the next *the summoning* cost 1 more blood, but the next *nocturn* is at the same price, am I right ? (assuming the same vampire, of course)
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23 Nov 2011 12:50 - 23 Nov 2011 13:05 #15629
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Nocturn - how does it work ?
No. In this case, the Nocturn isn't recruited, and its cardtext doesn't apply. {plus, you only get inferior Nocturn when you put it in play with no recruit happening}Another last two questions : if with superior Obtenetration a vampire do a compel the spirit or a summon history on a nocturn, can he do an additional compel the spirit / summon history the same turn if he untap ?
Correct: the Nocturn's "this action" would refer to the Summoning if the Ncoturn was recruited with the Summoning.Also, if a vampire make a "the summoning" for a nocturn (with obtenetration superior), the next *the summoning* cost 1 more blood, but the next *nocturn* is at the same price, am I right ? (assuming the same vampire, of course)
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23 Nov 2011 12:53 - 23 Nov 2011 12:55 #15630
by Ankha
Furthermore, since CtS and SH are not recruit action, they always use the inferior level of the ally (if any).
EDIT: Floppy was faster, dang
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no, CtS and SH put the Nocturn into play in a non-recruit way, meaning you won't untap and you will ignore the card text refering to the recruit action.Another last two questions : if with superior Obtenetration a vampire do a compel the spirit or a summon history on a nocturn, can he do an additional compel the spirit / summon history the same turn if he untap ?
Furthermore, since CtS and SH are not recruit action, they always use the inferior level of the ally (if any).
Correct, the "same action" is The Summoning (which cost is increased). The Nocturn fetched with it is at his normal cost.Also, if a vampire make a "the summoning" for a nocturn (with obtenetration superior), the next *the summoning* cost 1 more blood, but the next *nocturn* is at the same price, am I right ? (assuming the same vampire, of course)
EDIT: Floppy was faster, dang

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23 Nov 2011 12:57 #15631
by jamesatzephyr
No. You get the basic version of Nocturn.
[LSJ 20071016]
Yes.
[LSJ 20070407]
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Another last two questions : if with superior Obtenetration a vampire do a compel the spirit or a summon history on a nocturn, can he do an additional compel the spirit / summon history the same turn if he untap ?
No. You get the basic version of Nocturn.
[LSJ 20071016]
Orpheus wrote:
> Ok, that I knew. Now, I'd like to know if the "starting life" on a Shambling
> now means overseeds "normal version" and that a compelled Shambling will
> have 4 lives if it first came into the game with NEC ?
No. Compelled doesn't look at requirements, so it always uses the basic version.
Also, if a vampire make a "the summoning" for a nocturn (with obtenetration superior), the next *the summoning* cost 1 more blood, but the next *nocturn* is at the same price, am I right ? (assuming the same vampire, of course)
Yes.
[LSJ 20070407]
>>>>> Since in this case, "this action" was The Summoning, can Iniko then
>>>>> play The Summoning again, to recruit a different ally?
> Ok, but could iniko play another nocturn via the second (or third..or
> fourth) summoning ?
> thanks
Yes, if he or she finds another way to untap between each.
And the cost of the second Summoning is 1 blood (plus the cost of the Nocturn).
The cost of the third Summoning is 2 blood. And the cost of the fourth Summoning
is 3 blood.
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23 Nov 2011 17:55 #15664
by Hakuron
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Just to get it right:
If I recruit a Nocturn on
from my hand, do it a second time on
and play Freak Drive afterwards, and then play the third Nocturn, this third recruit will cost the acting vampire 3
?
If I recruit a Nocturn on




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