file vast wealth + hay ride

02 Dec 2011 11:12 #16766 by cmdrKEEN
when I equip via Vast Wealth and the action is blocked, the weapon I tryed to equip is put in the ash heap. Does that qualify as "used for the action" to play Hay Ride or would I have to play the equipment card from the hand and use its inherent equip acton for that?

Vast Wealth
Master Master.
Put this card on a ready minion you control. While you
control this minion, he or she can equip with the first
piece of equipment you find in your library (working
down from the top) as a +1 stealth action
(requirements and cost apply as normal). Shuffle
afterward.

Hay Ride [HttB:R]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline:Sanguinus
[san] Only usable after resolving an action (successfully or not). Choose a Blood
Brother of the same circle as this acting vampire. As your next action, that Blood
Brother may play the action card used for this action from your ash heap as if
from your hand.
[SAN ] As above, but the cost of this card is reduced by 1 blood.

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02 Dec 2011 11:17 #16767 by Amenophobis
Vast Wealth allows you to take an action to search for a weapon. If the action is blocked, you don't search your library.
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02 Dec 2011 11:35 #16770 by Pascal Bertrand

Vast Wealth allows you to take an action to search for a weapon. If the action is blocked, you don't search your library.

Correct.
Plus, there is no action card. So Hay Ride can't be played.

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02 Dec 2011 17:44 #16842 by finbury
Replied by finbury on topic Re: vast wealth + hay ride

Correct.
Plus, there is no action card. So Hay Ride can't be played.


Can't be played? Or has no effect when played?

I mean, "Only usable after resolving an action (successfully or not)" seems like it would apply in this case. And, "As your next action, that Blood
Brother may" is clearly both optional and outside the scope of this action.

Contrast the case where the chosen Blood Brother is unable to take an action. (They may have a Bauble, or just be tapped.) That would also prohibit the optional clause from being possible, but I wouldn't expect that to prevent the play of Hay Ride.

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02 Dec 2011 22:05 - 02 Dec 2011 22:06 #16883 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: vast wealth + hay ride

Correct.
Plus, there is no action card. So Hay Ride can't be played.


Can't be played? Or has no effect when played?

Can't be played. There's no action card.

I mean, "Only usable after resolving an action (successfully or not)" seems like it would apply in this case.

You have to read the whole card, you can't just read a bit then conclude anything.

The card allows you to play an action card again. If there's no action card, you can't play HR.

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Last edit: 02 Dec 2011 22:06 by Ankha.

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02 Dec 2011 22:41 #16892 by cmdrKEEN
Replied by cmdrKEEN on topic Re: vast wealth + hay ride
hrmpf :pinch: intellectual self-oust

Originally I was looking for a card that grants a Anonymous-Freight-like effect without being an action itself, but obviously such a card does not exist. And if equiping with Anonymous Freight, Hay Ride probably can only be used for this and not for the equipment.

Anonymous Freight
Action
+3 stealth equip action. Requires a vampire.
Equip this vampire with a non-location equipment card from your hand (requirements and cost apply as normal).

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