file Monocle of Clarity (& questions about the deck contents)

15 Dec 2011 23:07 #18603 by Haze
thanks to this thread, I'm going to start putting Monocle of Clarity in every single deck I build.

SEE YOU ALL AT THE 2012 NAC!
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16 Dec 2011 09:54 #18633 by Jesper

Ec2011 day 2, wanna playing something different then lcq and day one im borrowing a deck from a freind, writing a quick deck list and hands it over. I promise you that there was card in that deck, that I by name could not answere if they was in there or not, playing a clan im not used to with a disiplin im not used to. That mig qualify me as a terrible player, thats fine by me, but dosent make the story less true. Yes I would be able to tell you if there was an AI in the deck or not, but seriously not certain Disiplin cards, and since Pascal you, twice, said he would not catagorize cards (which makes sense not to do) I would be in a position where I would not be able to answere.


Well, clearly if I had played a Monocle and asked you about AI you'd have known the answer. Not answering it truthfully makes you a liar and with it a cheater because Monocle states you have to answer truthfully.

However, because there is no way to check, Pascal is allowing you to lie about it and when you're being caught you can just say "oooh but I don't remember sorry!".

That may or may not be a problem, but that doesn't make it less silly. Similar as to how people are allowed to cheat with different card backs.


But we comes down to, whats the difference between AI and Buffelo Charge or Cats Guidence? Im not saying I would lie and break the rules (no where did you see me write that). Im just saying that there could be cards in my deck I wouldent know if they was or wasent in there. As a counter argument to a "top player" should know whats in his deck, or maybe a Top player should know, but not pr. automatic a player on day 2.

/Jesper

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16 Dec 2011 10:32 #18635 by Jesper


I'm not asking what you "might" draw. I'm asking if a card is in your deck RIGHT NOW. The card is there, or it is not. This has NOTHING to do with any future whatsoever.


Sure, sure, but why are you asking? Isn't to know what you can expect LATER.


Why am I asking if you have a Deflection in your hand? Isn't it so I can expect that you can play it LATER?

You may cheat on unverifiable elements and pretend you don't recall


Exactly. And this is the weird thing. The rules *ALLOW* someone who wants to cheat do so legally! Similar to how the rules ALLOW someone to play unsleeved and cheat, would he want to.


No they are not allowed to cheat legally, you just cant prove if they do cheat. That dosent mean its allowed to.

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16 Dec 2011 10:44 #18637 by Jesper

thanks to this thread, I'm going to start putting Monocle of Clarity in every single deck I build.

SEE YOU ALL AT THE 2012 NAC!


Actully I was thinking about the same, but I would spice it up with Filchs Pawnshop so other players could get to ask questions ;)

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16 Dec 2011 18:44 #18675 by Haze

thanks to this thread, I'm going to start putting Monocle of Clarity in every single deck I build.

SEE YOU ALL AT THE 2012 NAC!


Actully I was thinking about the same, but I would spice it up with Filchs Pawnshop so other players could get to ask questions ;)

I might use it with Malkavian Time Auction, to see how much pool others are willing to pay to ask silly questions (or to stop me from asking stupid questions)

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