Secure Haven versus Edged Illusion
09 Mar 2012 13:22 #25415
by XZealot
Secure Haven versus Edged Illusion was created by XZealot
If I have a vampire with a Secure Haven and a vampire without a secure haven,and my predator performs an Edged Illusion at superior, then what happens?
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09 Mar 2012 13:46 #25418
by RaptorNut
Replied by RaptorNut on topic Re: Secure Haven versus Edged Illusion
Edged Illusion
[Action] Action
[Chimerstry] Chimerstry
[2 Blood]
[chi]
Tap a ready minion. This acting vampire inflicts 1 unpreventable damage on that minion.
[CHI]
Choose a Methuselah. This acting vampire inflicts 1 unpreventable damage on each ready minion controlled by that Methuselah.
Secure Haven
Master
[1 Pool]
Master: unique location. Haven.
Put this card on a minion you control. This minion cannot be the target of other Methuselahs' actions. .........(blah blah blah)
Both your vampires (as well as any other ready minions you control like Mylan or Carlton) get shot in the face for 1.
Edged Illusion is a
action directed/targeted at a Methuselah - it's effect is to do 1 damage to every minion controlled by the targeted Methuselah.
Secure Haven does nothing in this instance, since its protection only extends to
actions directed at the minion that Secure Haven is on.
Just my $0.02......
[Action] Action
[Chimerstry] Chimerstry
[2 Blood]
[chi]

[CHI]

Secure Haven
Master
[1 Pool]
Master: unique location. Haven.
Put this card on a minion you control. This minion cannot be the target of other Methuselahs' actions. .........(blah blah blah)
Both your vampires (as well as any other ready minions you control like Mylan or Carlton) get shot in the face for 1.
Edged Illusion is a

Secure Haven does nothing in this instance, since its protection only extends to

Just my $0.02......
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09 Mar 2012 13:47 #25419
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Secure Haven versus Edged Illusion
IANFLZD, but Superior Edged Illusion targets the methuselah, not the minion, so Secure Haven should not help.
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09 Mar 2012 13:50 #25420
by jamesatzephyr
www.thelasombra.com/rules/RTR080808.htm
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If I have a vampire with a Secure Haven and a vampire without a secure haven,and my predator performs an Edged Illusion at superior, then what happens?
www.thelasombra.com/rules/RTR080808.htm
Some actions target more than one thing, some without the ability to
individually control the selection, like Edged Illusion or Jaroslav Pascek's
special ability. If one or more of the targets cannot be targeted (because of
Trophy: Safe Passage, Sleep Unseen, or Reality, for example), the action can
still be taken, and it will simply have no effect on the things it cannot target
(and have the normal effect on the allowable targets).[/quote
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09 Mar 2012 13:54 #25421
by jamesatzephyr
Incorrect.
[LSJ 20071023]
And then several practical examples, such as using Hide or Talley, the Hound.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Secure Haven versus Edged Illusion
Superior Edged Illusion targets the methuselah, not the minion
Incorrect.
[LSJ 20071023]
> Superior Edged Illusion is a
action that affect multiple minions.
> Are those minions also considered to be targets of Edged Illusion, or
> the only target is the Methuselah who controls them?
The minions are the targets.
And then several practical examples, such as using Hide or Talley, the Hound.
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