file Annazir's built in action

28 May 2012 14:23 - 28 May 2012 14:24 #31285 by Reyda
Oh Hai.
If I untap Annazir after having stolen an equipment, can I go and burn a location or is it considered "having already used this card's buit in action" ?
And as a sidenote, If i "steal an equipment" and this equipement is an untapped helicopter, do I tap it or does it stay untapped for more funky actions ?

thanks !

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Independent: Annazir has 2 votes (titled). He may burn a location or steal an equipment as a action. +1 bleed. Infernal.

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28 May 2012 14:40 #31287 by Kiddo
Replied by Kiddo on topic Re: Annazir's built in action
My guess it that, since it is a single sentence, Annazir's abilities are in fact a single ability, so no repeat actions for him. Also, I'd consider an equipment stealing an equip action, so Annazir stays tapped after stealing a Helicopter.

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28 May 2012 14:44 #31288 by Dr.Mafrune
I don´t think so...Helicopter is a permanent, if it was untapped when Annazir stole it, it can be used to untap that minion.

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28 May 2012 15:15 #31290 by Reyda
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Annazir's built in action
I'll wait for floppy's (pascal) input on this. Because stealing an equipment = equip action ? Which would mean some modifiers can be played on it, and so on...
And for the built in action, I wonder if it's not a case of editing (space available) that makes it a single power -_-

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28 May 2012 16:31 #31292 by Haze
Replied by Haze on topic Re: Annazir's built in action
Stealing is not equipping:
groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/3b9f76ef43b38692/b5f18d97d2057af9?lnk=gst&q=lsj+steal+equipment#b5f18d97d2057af9

his ability may be one sentence to save on cardtext, but it's two different clauses. so I would say it's two different abilities, which can both be attempted in the same turn if he untaps.
groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/f4c9f542e783d48e/a11f994775221ce6
Virstania is the closest example: she gives gargoyles 2 abilities that are also written together in a single sentence, but LSJ has ruled that both can be used seperately.
(this question seems to depend more on english sentence structure than game rules, yay)
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28 May 2012 17:13 #31294 by Reyda
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Annazir's built in action
Ho Haze, thanks for the first link where I'm already asking the question to LSJ in year 2000 :) Memory loss is a bad thing ! ;p

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