Canine Hordes vs. Flash Grenade

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20 Jan 2013 22:54 - 20 Jan 2013 22:55 #44263 by Tdog

Canine Hordes vs. Flash Grenade was created by Tdog

The rules say that first strike counters tha effect of even a first strike (right?).
Does that apply when an acting minion strikes with canine horde at superior to destroy a flash grenade (which is the source of the S:CE)?
I told the players in this case that it happened before his strike was chosen so he had to choose a new stike, but was I right? I have doubts...

Last edit: 20 Jan 2013 22:55 by Tdog. Reason: rules question.. oops

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21 Jan 2013 02:18 - 21 Jan 2013 02:19 #44265 by kombainas

Replied by kombainas on topic Re: Canine Hordes vs. Flash Grenade

Rulebook clearly states "If both minions strike with first strike, then the strikes are resolved simultaneously."

Edit: Furthermore, S:CE comes BEFORE first strike.

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21 Jan 2013 06:41 - 21 Jan 2013 06:44 #44268 by Ankha

Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Canine Hordes vs. Flash Grenade

Name: Flash Grenade
Cardtype: Equipment
Weapon.
Strike: combat ends. Ranged: if the opposing minion is a vampire, he or she is tapped and does not untap as normal on his or her next untap phase. If the bearer is a vampire and the grenade is used at close range, the bearer is also tapped and does not untap as normal on his or her next untap phase. Burn this weapon after use.

Name: Canine Horde
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Animalism
[ani] Strike: 1R damage.
[ANI] Strike: ranged; destroy equipment with first strike.

Both combattants choose their strike, then they resolve.

S:CE from the grenade resolves first. Canine Horde is never resolved.

Tdog wrote:
I told the players in this case that it happened before his strike was chosen so he had to choose a new stike, but was I right? I have doubts...

No, you don't choose and resolve strikes with first strike before other strikes. The choose strike step requires both players to choose their strike (acting meth choses first), then the strikes resolve in order according to the rulebook.

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