times Voter Cap on sup. and The Eldest Command Undeath

27 May 2011 10:06 - 04 Feb 2013 11:42 #4708 by Hakuron
Eldest Command Undeath, The
Type: Political Action
Requires: laibon
Cost: X blood
Requires a Laibon.
Choose a vampire controlled by your prey with capacity less than X. Successful referendum means that vampire is burned. This acting vampire cannot gain blood this action. Any blood he or she gains goes to the blood bank instead.


Voter Captivation
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Presence
Only usable after resolving a successful referendum called by this acting vampire.
 The acting vampire gains X blood from the blood bank, where X is the number of votes by which the referendum passed.
 As above, but move up to 2 of those blood counters to your pool instead of this vampire.

Just to be sure: I cannot gain pool via Voter Captivation when calling The Eldest Command Undeath, or is the pool gained by Voter Cap "directly" moved to the pool?
Thanks in advance!


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Last edit: 04 Feb 2013 11:42 by Pascal Bertrand.

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27 May 2011 10:20 #4709 by Karo
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27 May 2011 11:01 #4710 by Izaak
To quote that answer, you CAN gain the pool.

It's moved to your pool INSTEAD of to the vampire and not to the vampire first and then to your pool.
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27 May 2011 11:42 - 27 May 2011 11:42 #4711 by Pascal Bertrand

To quote that answer, you CAN gain the pool.

It's moved to your pool INSTEAD of to the vampire and not to the vampire first and then to your pool.

Yep. And it's the same with Final Loosening (which means you can gain 1 blood and 2 pool when Final Loosening is played on your Voter Capt). [LSJ 20080529]
Last edit: 27 May 2011 11:42 by Pascal Bertrand.
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28 Mar 2013 07:05 #46332 by diablerist
The Eldest Command Undeath
This acting vampire cannot gain blood this action.

Voter Captivation
Only usable after resolving a successful referendum called by this acting vampire.
to me this would mean the action is over since the referendum is counted and resolved. Since the referendum is over why would the Eldest still be in effect? Why would Voter Cap NOT work?

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28 Mar 2013 08:11 #46334 by Boris The Blade
You can play an action modifier when there is an action to modify, so the action cannot be over when Voter Captivation is played. There is a phase after resolving the action to play action modifiers such as Voter Captivation or Freak Drive. That phase is still part of the action. So Eldest command Undead still applies, and you don't replace a Bum's Rush before playing a Freak Drive for example.

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