Burning 419 Operation without counters

419 Operation
+1 stealth action.
Put this card in play. During your untap phase, you may move 1 pool from your prey's pool to this card or move the pool on this card to your pool. Your prey can burn the Edge to move the counters on this card to his or her pool and burn this card.

Is it possible to burn a single 419 operation by burning the edge, if the card has no counters on it?

Since 0 is a legitimate number for all kinds of effects in VTES, I'm inclined to say yes.

Yes, you can burn the edge to burn a 419 operation even if there are no counters.It is the only were to get rid of them....

Killjoy71 wrote:

Yes, you can burn the edge to burn a 419 operation even if there are no counters.

Correct.

Amenophobis wrote:

419 Operation
+1 stealth action.
Put this card in play. During your untap phase, you may move 1 pool from your prey's pool to this card or move the pool on this card to your pool. Your prey can burn the Edge to move the counters on this card to his or her pool and burn this card.

Is it possible to burn a single 419 operation by burning the edge, if the card has no counters on it?

Yes.

Effects involving counters usually don't target the individual counters. This means that you can:

- play Theft of Vitae, even when your opponent has no blood or life
- play Villein, even when the vampire has less than 2 blood (even an empty vampire)
- burn 419 and move "the counters", even when there are no counters.

Thank you guys. I needed to get a clear ruling for one of my more "stubborn" players.