Legacy of Pander
22 Jul 2013 12:13 #52017
by Sydnelson
Fernando Cesar - Sydnelson
LackeyCCG and OCTGN VtES Mantainer

Prince of Rio de Janeiro
Powerbase Rio de Janeiro
Legacy of Pander was created by Sydnelson
We have few players complaining abou two clarifications about a card.
Legacy of Pander, Political Action, Sabbat, R , [Sabbat:R, SW:R]
{Requires a} Sabbat vampire. If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. Each non-titled Pander has 1 vote. Any Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
LSJ clarification:
groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/wuhgIV-vu2U/WZSUz51u-DAJ
Legacy of Pander [SAB] - Political Action
* Legacy of Pander is cumulative. [LSJ 971118]
VEKN Errata
www.vekn.net/card-lists/77-sw-whats-changed
Legacy of Pander. Gives each non-titled Pander one vote, not one additional vote. (You can have more than one in play, but doing so will still result in each non-titled Pander having one vote. Similar to being named for more than one Rumors of Gehenna - there is no benefit other than needing more actions to remove the bonus).
What is the right rulling?
Legacy of Pander, Political Action, Sabbat, R , [Sabbat:R, SW:R]
{Requires a} Sabbat vampire. If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. Each non-titled Pander has 1 vote. Any Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
LSJ clarification:
groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/wuhgIV-vu2U/WZSUz51u-DAJ
Legacy of Pander [SAB] - Political Action
* Legacy of Pander is cumulative. [LSJ 971118]
VEKN Errata
www.vekn.net/card-lists/77-sw-whats-changed
Legacy of Pander. Gives each non-titled Pander one vote, not one additional vote. (You can have more than one in play, but doing so will still result in each non-titled Pander having one vote. Similar to being named for more than one Rumors of Gehenna - there is no benefit other than needing more actions to remove the bonus).
What is the right rulling?
Fernando Cesar - Sydnelson
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22 Jul 2013 12:17 #52018
by Reyda
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Legacy of Pander
usually, checking the latest ruling is enough. The one you cite from 1997 is clearly outdated.
but in the case of legacy of pander, just checking the last card text that says explicitely "Each non-titled pander has one vote" is clearly the easiest way to go...
www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?lib=692
but in the case of legacy of pander, just checking the last card text that says explicitely "Each non-titled pander has one vote" is clearly the easiest way to go...

www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?lib=692
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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22 Jul 2013 12:18 #52019
by jamesatzephyr
The 1997 ruling was based on Legacy of Pander's then-current card text ("one additional vote"). The card text was changed in Sabbat War ("one vote"), and the earlier ruling is therefore no longer relevant.
Short version: even if you have 50 Legacy of Pander in play, Basil casts one vote.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Legacy of Pander
What is the right rulling?
The 1997 ruling was based on Legacy of Pander's then-current card text ("one additional vote"). The card text was changed in Sabbat War ("one vote"), and the earlier ruling is therefore no longer relevant.
Short version: even if you have 50 Legacy of Pander in play, Basil casts one vote.
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22 Jul 2013 12:38 #52021
by Sydnelson
Fernando Cesar - Sydnelson
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Replied by Sydnelson on topic Re: Legacy of Pander
OK, thanks for reply. I will show this thread to players.
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23 Jul 2013 05:14 #52055
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Legacy of Pander
Correct answers from Reyda and jamesatzephyr.
Legacy of Pander cards don't stack, but it's interesting to have more than 1 in play (in case they burn it).
Legacy of Pander cards don't stack, but it's interesting to have more than 1 in play (in case they burn it).
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