Rötschreck vs Riposte
16 Feb 2014 09:13 #59199
by Kiddo
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Ah, I see. Yes, yes, you're quite correct.
(btw, your link isn't working for me)
(btw, your link isn't working for me)
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16 Feb 2014 10:47 #59201
by jamesatzephyr
You can cancel the Rotschreck outright with master-cancellation tech, such as Sudden Reversal or Wash. That will depend on you getting into combat when:
a) it's not your turn, or
b) begging one of them cross-table from an ally. Meth A in combat with Meth B on A's turn. Meth B plays Rotschreck. Meth C can cancel it.
You can partially nullify it (it's still on you) if you play any of:
- Telepathic Tracking
- Psyche!
- Coordinate Attacks
- Hidden Lurker
- Fast Reactions
Possibly other effects too.
The basic ruling is from thelasombra.com/rules/RTR512.txt :
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Rötschreck vs Riposte
I think the only way to avoid rotchech is play telepathic tracking.
You can cancel the Rotschreck outright with master-cancellation tech, such as Sudden Reversal or Wash. That will depend on you getting into combat when:
a) it's not your turn, or
b) begging one of them cross-table from an ally. Meth A in combat with Meth B on A's turn. Meth B plays Rotschreck. Meth C can cancel it.
You can partially nullify it (it's still on you) if you play any of:
- Telepathic Tracking
- Psyche!
- Coordinate Attacks
- Hidden Lurker
- Fast Reactions
Possibly other effects too.
The basic ruling is from thelasombra.com/rules/RTR512.txt :
Effects that end combat and then do something else after combat (all in the
single resolution of the effect) will fizzle if combat doesn't end or if a
new combat is started. (Changes: Rotschreck followed by Fast Reaction or
Psyche! will nullify the torpor effect.)
single resolution of the effect) will fizzle if combat doesn't end or if a
new combat is started. (Changes: Rotschreck followed by Fast Reaction or
Psyche! will nullify the torpor effect.)
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17 Feb 2014 00:31 #59210
by ReverendRevolver
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Please also note: Santaleous can cancel it as its played.
It cannot be played on gotsdam/someone with sires index fimger,
Most importantly:
Anybody with basic Abombwe can play ANY abombwe card's reflexive text to cancel a frenzy card played on them as it is played.
It cannot be played on gotsdam/someone with sires index fimger,
Most importantly:
Anybody with basic Abombwe can play ANY abombwe card's reflexive text to cancel a frenzy card played on them as it is played.
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17 Feb 2014 06:38 #59213
by jamesatzephyr
Technically incorrect. (You probably still wouldn't play it, but you can.)
www.thelasombra.com/rules/RTR7-7-7.txt
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It cannot be played on gotsdam/someone with sires index fimger,
Technically incorrect. (You probably still wouldn't play it, but you can.)
www.thelasombra.com/rules/RTR7-7-7.txt
Rötschreck can be played on a vampire who is immune to Frenzy cards (uselessly,
since the target is immune to it).
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17 Feb 2014 13:45 #59218
by ReverendRevolver
Ah yes.
"He needed to cycle a master phase" tech.
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It cannot be played on gotsdam/someone with sires index fimger,
Technically incorrect. (You probably still wouldn't play it, but you can.)
www.thelasombra.com/rules/RTR7-7-7.txtRötschreck can be played on a vampire who is immune to Frenzy cards (uselessly,
since the target is immune to it).
Ah yes.
"He needed to cycle a master phase" tech.
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17 Feb 2014 13:49 #59219
by jamesatzephyr
I'm not 100% sure what "cycling a master phase" is. But cycling cards for no useful effect is perfectly ordinary if, for example, you want to get to that Deflection you know must be coming up soon.
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"He needed to cycle a master phase" tech.
I'm not 100% sure what "cycling a master phase" is. But cycling cards for no useful effect is perfectly ordinary if, for example, you want to get to that Deflection you know must be coming up soon.
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