Re: Nahir and research counters
23 May 2014 02:52 #62700
by alasteir
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Nahir and research counters was created by alasteir
Hi everyone, there's a lot of time since my last topic.
A doubt:
If the lasombra Nahir goes to torpor with a research counter on her do you still remain with the enlarged handsize?
I assume yes, because the she has two habilities, divised by a períod, first the one to get THE counters, wich specifies that she needs to be ready, and the other, wich doesn't say this.
What you say?
Nahir
Clan: Lasombra (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI DOM OBT POT tha
Sabbat: If Nahir is ready, you may use a master phase action to burn 1
pool to put a research counter on her. Your hand size is +X, where X
is the number of research counters she has. +1 bleed.
A doubt:
If the lasombra Nahir goes to torpor with a research counter on her do you still remain with the enlarged handsize?
I assume yes, because the she has two habilities, divised by a períod, first the one to get THE counters, wich specifies that she needs to be ready, and the other, wich doesn't say this.
What you say?
Nahir
Clan: Lasombra (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI DOM OBT POT tha
Sabbat: If Nahir is ready, you may use a master phase action to burn 1
pool to put a research counter on her. Your hand size is +X, where X
is the number of research counters she has. +1 bleed.
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23 May 2014 03:49 #62701
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Nahir and research counters
Correct.I assume yes, because the she has two habilities, divised by a períod, first the one to get THE counters, wich specifies that she needs to be ready, and the other, wich doesn't say this.
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13 Dec 2019 23:10 #98239
by Hakuron
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Re: Nahir and research counters
Additional question:
Given you have enough master phase actions, can you use Nahir's special more than once per turn?
("a" in phrases like "a master phase action" leaves me in doubt whether it means "only one" or "multiple times one".)
Given you have enough master phase actions, can you use Nahir's special more than once per turn?
("a" in phrases like "a master phase action" leaves me in doubt whether it means "only one" or "multiple times one".)
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14 Dec 2019 00:14 - 14 Dec 2019 00:14 #98240
by jamesatzephyr
Yes.
Similarly, you can use Ayo Igoli's special more than once per turn, if you have multiple discard phase actions.
[LSJ 20080501]
Ayo Igoli:
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Nahir and research counters
Given you have enough master phase actions, can you use Nahir's special more than once per turn?
Yes.
Similarly, you can use Ayo Igoli's special more than once per turn, if you have multiple discard phase actions.
[LSJ 20080501]
> So I have Cagliostro, Powerbase: Los Angeles, Port Authority,
> Camirilla Threats and Ayo Igoli play.
>
> If I use all three discard phase action to discard cards, I will take
> 3 pool damage and have my hand size reduced by 3. correct?
You will have paid three pool in order to do so, yes.
And you will have three cards you are not replacing which count against your
hand size, yes.
> May Ayo put 2 blood on a younger uncontrolled laibon 3 times? I think
> not.
Yes, if you do that instead of using the discard phase actions to discard cards.
Or you can mix it up:
Pay a pool to use one dpa to discard a card (which you don't replace until your
untap phase), and use one to move two blood from Ayo to an uncontrolled Laibon
and use the last one to move two blood from Ayo to another uncontroller Laibon.
Ayo Igoli:
You may use a discard phase action to move 2 blood from Ayo to a Laibon in your uncontrolled region.
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18 Dec 2019 14:01 #98294
by Tendoncutter
Replied by Tendoncutter on topic Re: Nahir and research counters
So, this would also apply to Khalids ability, then?
"Camarilla primogen: During your master phase, if Khalid is ready, you may use a master phase action and discard a card that requires Obfuscate from your hand to gain a pool."
Good way to cycle stealth if you're getting jammed
"Camarilla primogen: During your master phase, if Khalid is ready, you may use a master phase action and discard a card that requires Obfuscate from your hand to gain a pool."
Good way to cycle stealth if you're getting jammed

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18 Dec 2019 14:46 #98295
by Ankha
See rulebook:
“During X, do Y”: The “during X do Y” template is used in several cards. When this template is used, only one Y can be done per X with this card. For instance, you may move blood from your vampire to your pool with Vessel only once per unlock phase.
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Nahir and research counters
No.So, this would also apply to Khalids ability, then?
"Camarilla primogen: During your master phase, if Khalid is ready, you may use a master phase action and discard a card that requires Obfuscate from your hand to gain a pool."
See rulebook:
“During X, do Y”: The “during X do Y” template is used in several cards. When this template is used, only one Y can be done per X with this card. For instance, you may move blood from your vampire to your pool with Vessel only once per unlock phase.
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